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To: elengr

“Given the half-truths, outright lies and paucity of verifiable facts that are available about the origins of the apparently gay, marxist, islamophile figurehead of “the most transparent administration ever,” no one can be certain about aka obama’s nativity and who he really is.”

.....I’m not sure that anyone can ever be 100% certain of who anyone is. All we can operate on is the balance of probabilities given the known evidence......

“But it is certain beyond a doubt that aka obama has lied about his life’s story for the purposes of getting elected”

.....I’d agree that there’s no doubt that there have been some lies about his life engineered to improve electability.....

“and has committed criminal identity fraud against the American people and very probably is not a natural born Citizen, either of which should have disqualified him from ever becoming the putative president.”

....There we part company. I haven’t yet seen any convincing evidence of criminal identity fraud. Have you? Despite what Mr Zullo and others might have some believe, it seems to me that on the basis of past history there appears to be no real prospect of any evidence of criminal identity fraud being forthcoming in the foreseable future. Nor have I yet seen evidence that would justify an objective conclusion that he is “very likely not a natural born citizen”. Courts have concluded that he is. Congress, without dissent from a single Democrat or Republican member, clearly concluded that he is. The Congressional Research Service concluded that he is.

I’ve seen plenty evidence that he is not an effective President. Not the same thing.


519 posted on 03/12/2014 10:04:43 AM PDT by Backtolife
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To: Backtolife

“I’ve seen plenty evidence that he is not an effective President.”

‘Not...effective’ is one way to put it.

Here’s the analogy I wd draw to that characterization:

‘The brain surgeon decapitated his patient. Thus it may be concluded that he is an ineffective surgeon.’


520 posted on 03/12/2014 10:10:12 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Backtolife

There we part company. I haven’t yet seen any convincing evidence of criminal identity fraud


Using forged documents is not criminal?

sheesh


523 posted on 03/12/2014 10:46:36 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Backtolife; Red Steel

Nor have I yet seen evidence that would justify an objective conclusion that he is “very likely not a natural born citizen”. Courts have concluded that he is.


No they have not. “No standing” or other picayune technical reasons.

Hey Red Steel - I think there’s a retread on this thread.


524 posted on 03/12/2014 10:48:04 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Backtolife

Check your FR mail :)


532 posted on 03/12/2014 12:36:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000))
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