She classifies them in two different categories. Would like to see a list of all of the segments
It appears she worked with all facets
Fred and I were discussing the “ring” Maybe this holds the key to where he got it!
The definition of bapak and other terms is interesting
Yes, it did seem as if she was talking about two separate categories. Blacksmithing doesn’t normally involve jewelry...except in Lord of the Rings, & similar. But that is, ahem, a whole other world.
I don’t know how you’d establish where he got the ring. My $ goes on the Arab guy Obama was sitting next to on the couch...WAY too close to, from a hetero POV. I cd never prove that, however, nor wd I try. I doubt the ring’s disposition can be ascertained via online research, fwiw. But I could end up pleasantly surprised. Time will tell.
Ancient Chinese Wheel of Life. Add a another spoke and a few rings and you've got the SUBUD symbol. To be a muslim is to be plagiarist. Muhammad started it, Pak Subuh just followed.