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“Greenperson to Fantasywriter

I meant to write that a dissertation doesn’t EXIST only on computer disks.

I found the answer. Apparently it’s on microfilm, if we believe it: http://books.google.com/books/about/Peasant_Blacksmithing_in_Indonesia.html?id=LxXcAAAAMAAJ

Stanley Ann Dunham, 1992.”

Why would we doubt it? Why would the university, in ‘92, fake giving Ann a Ph.D? Do you have any evidence that they committed major, glaring academic fraud by claiming to award her a Ph.D she didn’t earn? The UoH is very proud of SADO. They’ve posted numerous accolades to her, and every one mentions her Ph.D. In order to earn it, she had to write & defend a thesis/dissertation. She did so. Whether it was any good or not, who knows? She got the Ph.D. That is the bottom line.

Btw, Mercer Island HS is fundraising off the fact that SADO graduated there. Here’s the link:

http://stanleydunhamfund.com/


990 posted on 02/07/2014 5:09:56 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; Greenperson; WildHighlander57

Typed in “gold” in the little box and hit the jack pot! ;-)

...1-3 of 25 hits
From inside the book

Results 1-3 of 25
Page 593
Not only iron, but gold, silver, copper and coal were dug out of these mountains.
Traditional history maintains that the first king of Minangkabau was a Javanese
aristocrat known as Adityavarman. In the fourteenth century Adityavarman moved
...
Page 990
a reddish-gold copper alloy, often used as a cover for keris sheaths lamus/kamus
= (n.) goat hide bellows, used principally along north coast of Java for copper,
brass and bronze working lerak = (n.) soapfruit, used in polishing silver limonite ...
Page 1037
“Gold Foil Burial Amulets.” Journal of the Malaysian Branch of the Royal Asiatic
Society 44, pp. 71-77. Parekh, Kishor 1971 “Deadly Beauty of the Kris.”
Orientations 2, pp. 65-73. Pigeaud, Th. 1958 “Javanese Gold.” Bdijdragen tot de
Taal-, ...
Where’s the rest of this book? (Is a link not me asking a question)


994 posted on 02/07/2014 6:11:09 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Fantasywriter; All

Here’s a sample on “jewelry”

Xxxxxx
Page 727
Jewelry-making enterprises spent proportionately more on inputs and less on
labor than blacksmithing enterprises, however, because they relied less on hired
labor. Expressed as a percentage of gross output, household jewelry-making ...
Page 728
The ratio of profit to the owner and wages to hired workers was 8.5:1 for small
jewelry- making enterprises vs 14.1:1 for small blacksmithing enterprises. Profit to
the owner as a percentage of gross output was only 20.9% for jewelry-making vs
...
Page 747
Exporting is still rare for code 381 enterprises, but may be more common for code
39 enterprises such as jewelry- and musical instrument-making (see Chapter IX);
18. The three problems most frequently reported by small metalworking ...


995 posted on 02/07/2014 6:15:40 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Fantasywriter

No results for Subud
But two for Bapak
Here:
http://books.google.com/books?output=html_text&id=LxXcAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Bapak

Xxxxx
Results 1-2 of 2
Page 587
Pak is an honorific which comes from Bapak or “father.” It is used for any married
man. gu is the parallel term for married women. It comes from Ibu or “mother.” The
names used in Kajar are typical Javanese names. In daily conversation the ...
Page 640
Government projects include cash and equipment credits, a blacksmithing
cooperative, a common service facility (Unit Pelayanan Teknis) , and
appointment of a “Foster Father” (Bapak Angkat) for the village. A few individuals
have even been ...


997 posted on 02/07/2014 6:28:26 AM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Fantasywriter

“Why would we doubt it?”
_____________________________

And everybody was calling the senator, candidate and later president’s mother DOCTOR Stanley Ann Dunham from the first time her name appeared in print.

As people looking for truth, in an unbiased manner, with open minds (as, for example, journalists once did) must we not doubt everything until proven, but especially with regard to the background of this person, whose official history changes as if we’re living out, in real time, the novel 1984?

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/anna.htm

Beckwith doubts, which puts me in good company:

“And here’s a letter that was sent from the University of Hawaii in November, 2008:

“The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:

Dates of attendance:
Bachelors:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 — Summer 1966
Masters:
Fall 1972 — Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Ph. D.:
Fall 1984 — Summer 1992

Degrees awarded:
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

Assuming these email responses were true, the University of Hawaii has Stanley Ann starting class in Sept 26, 1960 and dropping out for the spring semester (while pregnant). She then re-enrolled at the University of Washington in the autumn of 1961, just after Obama was born. Obama Sr. was still at the University of Hawaii, and graduated in 1962 while Stanley Ann was at University of Washington.”

“Assuming these email responses were true ...”

Why would he doubt when the case is closed? An email verifies all.

Yet her son, boasting of the success of that white woman from Kansas, didn’t tell everyone, every chance he got, in 2004 or later in 2007, that his mother had a PhD. He did falsely state that his father had a PhD.

Try to find anything prior to the 2008 election that reads “Sutoro PhD” or “Dunham PhD” or any permutation of her many names with “Doctor” or “Dr.” in front. Wikipedia first mentions it in January 2008, unsourced unless by implication, with a bunch of dead links footnoted elsewhere, which don’t pertain to the issue.

Why wouldn’t a progressive like Barry especially tout the achievements of this female who happened to be his mother? Is there a progressive war on women or something? He had dreams from his father but none from his mother?

Riddle me this: Why wasn’t her groundbreaking research cited in innumerable other anthropology treatises over the past 20 years? It’s incumbent on any other student or anthropologist researching her field to find, read, and cite all previous research, seeing as how every scientist stands on the shoulder of the giants that came before.

btw, I made a skeptical remark, as did Beckwith. I made no claims and so it’s not necessary for me to supply “evidence” to support any claim that I never made.

And what does Mercer Island HS have to do with any discussion of a PhD dissertation submitted to a university in Hawaii?


1,009 posted on 02/07/2014 8:47:29 AM PST by Greenperson
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