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To: Fred Nerks; maggief; WildHighlander57; Brown Deer; LucyT; Fantasywriter; butterdezillion; ...

From the link I sent you above:

Firstly It is essential that one attributes his or her lineage to his or her biological father. by having their secound name as son of so ...
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Both SADO and one of the daughters listed above have been given their fathers names

The thought crossed my mind: we know
•. the Paynes were active in the Methodist church.
•. SADO ‘s parents took her to UU
•. UU accepts people of all faiths.
•. Madalyns parents did not approve of the marriage.
•. SADO was open to the muslin faith ( she married two)
•. BhO wore a ring with a muslin inscription ( could it be a family piece?)
•. Female family members are named using biological fathers name ( an Islamic tradition)
•. Other members of the family married and are living in Saudi Arabi

Could the conflict between the Paynes and Madyn”a choice of husbands have been a faith issue ?


824 posted on 02/05/2014 6:28:21 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

•. the Paynes were active in the Methodist church.

Do we know this for a fact or is it anecdotal? Was this supposed to be in Seattle or in Hawaii?

•. SADO ‘s parents took her to UU

You mean United Unitarian, do you? Have you any physical proof that she was in Hawaii before 1963? And went to church? Or after 1963, when she supposedly enrolled at the U of HI...she went to church then, with her parents?

•. UU accepts people of all faiths.

And engaged in inter-faith outreach, as a result of which Feldman brought the cult of SUBUH to the U of HI and the East-West Centre, in 1967 when he was a professor at the university.

•. Madalyns parents did not approve of the marriage.

It was the kenyans parents who objected to the marriage, according to that tome of lies, ‘Dreams’ HIS father threatened to have him thrown out of the university. Not that I believe that for a moment. That chapter must relate to the parents of Ann S Obama or Anna Obama who complained about the kenyan to the INS, as a result of which he was warned to STAY AWAY FROM THE GIRLS. Note: PLURAL. GIRLS.

•. SADO was open to the muslin faith ( she married two)

I’ll go so far as to say she married one, the other we can’t be so sure. And she was definitely open to islam, in Indonesia she supported Suharto, and we know how that ended up for the non-muslim ‘infidels’.

•. BhO wore a ring with a muslin inscription ( could it be a family piece?)

The ring is an African hair-ring, made out of gold. There’s no muslim inscription on it, that’s just how the ring is traditionally made. The hairs are wound around a piece of wire, and looped. Who-ever dreamed that one up was tripping. He possibly bought that on his first trip to Kenya after the kenyan student was killed. He and SAD both went there, ask Alice Dewey. Why they did, would be of interest.
Poor Kezia got a shock. She thought it was Ruth. She didn’t know anything about Stanley Ann Dunham and zero.

•. Female family members are named using biological fathers name ( an Islamic tradition)

No, I’ve tried to explain how that works, you just don’t want to know. I think you’re trying to weave in something about Stanley Ann Dunham being a member of that cult and being named after her father. In Kansas. In 1942. It doesn’t wash.

•. Other members of the family married and are living in Saudi Arabi

Other members? Why not name them? You know who they are. Why make a mystery out of it. Cecil Goeldner had a lucrative contract to install a computer system at a Bank in Saudi Arabia. His daughter met an arab of an obviously elite family at college, and married him. Cecil’s wife is Virginia, the half sister of Stanley Armour Dunham.

++Could the conflict between the Paynes and Madyn”a choice of husbands have been a faith issue ?

Was there a conflict? Stanley Armour was from the wrong side of the tracks, the young people married secretly before she graduated, so the story goes...they just didn’t approve of him, but I imagine they got over it.


825 posted on 02/05/2014 7:27:43 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fascination with)
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To: hoosiermama

They come in as many shapes as the hands that make them can create, some are made from the traditional hair of the tail of an elephant, others are manufactured in gold.

826 posted on 02/05/2014 7:37:40 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fascination with)
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