How fleeting is the fame on FreeRepublic, Ladysforest knocked herself out and gets forgotten?
How fleeting is the fame on FreeRepublic, Ladysforest knocked herself out and gets forgotten?
Many thanks, Fred! That’s the one,
and I remember someone here saying “ladysforest took the time to go all the way to Hawaii and take a pic and post it! “
Thanks again (again :) )
Found a comment by ‘mike’ that ties in the 1971 0 SR visit with the Lolo-sado marriage cert copy pull of July xx 1971.
Has to do with adoption.
Here’s the comment:
Mike on February 14, 2011 at 10:44 am
I did some checking around in regards to Obama Senior’s visit. It seems it was a ‘month long visit’ in December of 1971 and part of January 1972. There are photos from that period at the airport and a Christmas photo with SAD and the two BHOs.
Remember Obama II and SAD/SAS came from Indonesia on Pan Am flight 812 on October 21st in 1971. Apparently the goal of the trip was hand off Obama II to the grandparents. But maybe the international adoption created a problem and the father or named father needed to make an appearance to undo the Soetoro adoption.
See this link and see the section ‘Correcting the Adoption’
http://theobamafile.com/_family/Senior.htm
This creates a strong legal reason for the 1971 visit by Obama Senior.
Also of interest in this section is an interesting observation – the use if II vs. Junior. I never thought of it before. But the tradition of II is to name someone for someone who is not their son. It is almost a declaration – this is not my biological son. In looking into this more in detail it is the custom to use II vs. Junior when naming someone who is not a child of the one named.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffix_%28name%29
“The suffix II is used when the child has an identical name to a relative, but who is not the child’s father.”
So that would support that BHO Sr. was a stand-in in 1961.
If Obama was adopted by Soetoro and the possibly legally adopted again by his grandparents in 1971 then you would have 2 layers of legally sealed records to get through. Adoptions are the worm hole of the legal system. You go in end as one name and out the other as another name. And the previous records are legally erased, sealed or hidden. And the standard purpose is clear – prevent the previous identity from being used or abused or re-entering the legal system. ‘Privacy’ is interesting but the legal system does not want a person with two completely different identities floating around.
Adoption or multiple adoptions also explain why some say – there is no long form. Adoption(s) would shred that original document in a legal sense since it is sealed. If that long form from Hawaii, Washington, Canada or Kenya? Who knows but if there were adoption is it true gone – by design and legally. Hence why Mr. Abercrombie (and no one else) can find it!