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To: Sherman Logan
You're relying upon facts not in evidence regarding Obama’s place of birth. I actually think Cruz might have a stronger case, assuming Canada didn't claim sovereignty over him as a result of jus soli, having been born in their territory.

Obama’s father was something of a Kenyan elite, attending university here as part of an exchange program. It could be claimed that as such he was a representative of Kenya, strike one, did he ever claim diplomatic immunity in any way? He wasn't even a resident alien, strike two, with no desire to even remain here let alone become a citizen.

Cruz’ father was in a position tantamount to statelessness at the time Ted Cruz was born, but had resided in the United States, did return there, did reside there, and did eventually became a US citizen.

Sovereignty is the crux of the matter, with no jurisdictional claims of any foreign sovereignty allowed under the Constitution, as far as those who would be President are concerned.

146 posted on 07/21/2013 11:15:13 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Obama’s father was something of a Kenyan elite, attending university here as part of an exchange program.

Not technically accurate. At the time Kenya did not exist, since it became a Commonwealth realm in 1963 and an independent republic in 1964. Senior was from British East Africa. As such not exactly a British subject or citizen, but kinda sorta.

I've never seen good documentation on what his exact citizenship status was at the time of Obama's birth.

IMO there is adequate documentation that Obama was born in HI. I understand some disagree, but it's not an argument I care to go around again on.

160 posted on 07/21/2013 11:36:47 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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