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To: Fantasywriter; Seizethecarp

I’m with you. The Mal-Val narrative is just plain strange and incoherent.

A pregnant Val and a pregnant Asian woman both losing track of their babies or exchanging them, or giving them up, or whatever. One living with Ruth in Kenya, one living in Seattle, etc. It’s all so wacky. I’ve not been able, after all this time, to make any coherent sense out of the theory.

In the photo set up-thread (4 baby boys), I see depicted three photos of a young Obama and one of a different child (the real David - I guess). So if the narrative starts with a pictures of both Obama AND David instead of four photos of just a young Obama the rest falls apart from there.

In my opinion, lots of straining and jamming of non-existent evidence into a theory that went off the rails big-time. Lots of conjecture.

Stanley Ann is unaccounted for during the time of the pregnancy. The most logical story is that Stanley Ann is the mother and was pregnant some place other than Hawaii.

I suspect a pregnant Stanley Ann with a foreign birth is the same Ann, Anne, and Anna. Her missing passport and the missing national archive records are big tells.

If the Mal/Val story turns out to be correct in the end, I’ll gladly congratulate those who ferreted out the correct solution and even apologize for being so obtuse. So for me, until that time the story is just that, a story.

That’s not to say that there aren’t some strange facts and circumstances surrounding Obama. There definitely are. I just think they are more mundane ...even for Obama and the known cast of commies, marxists, and fruitcake characters in his life.

One of the reasons I think they even brought up the subject of the folded up birth certificate and vague marriage in “Dreams” was just because it is vague and most likely foreign. The circumstances of Obama’s origins were already out there. The Hawaiian school had his information. The hospital knew whether or not he was born there. Occidental, Columbia, Harvard, ICE, passport office, State Department, INS, Indonesian government etc. had his information. He was a nobody at that point.

Back when “Dreams” was being written, they didn’t know what the future held or that they would need to or be able to so successfully hide, obfuscate documents and forge birth certificates. They didn’t know that privacy laws would become suicide pacts that help cover up fraud.

So in “Dreams” they use the vagueness to their advantage. Why bring it up otherwise? If he’s legit, there is no need to mention anything about a birth certificate. If he is the super-secret love child of a space alien and coyote and nobody has even an inkling, why draw attention to it?

Only with the growing political power from his community organizing groups, ACORN, Pelosi, Brennan, and all the political hacks, Soros, DNC, Chicago mob, Saudi money connections, etc. was he able to scrub and forge his records to allow him run.

They are probably surprised them selves that the “you are a racist” if you mention my father is a non-American scam worked and everyone with any authority was too scared to mention it. They just steamrolled their way over that aspect of the NBC issue.

Once a black man secured the Democratic nomination, nobody was going to mention a “little thing” like his father’s citizenship status.

“Look squirrel. You’re a racist. Look, McCain was born in Panama. Look squirrel. You’re a racist”...worked well for them.

Heck, in retrospect, a birth on foreign soil with a foreign parent might not have been a bridge too far for the first black presidential nominee, but it certainly would have exposed all the fraud. Foreign scholarships. Forged birth certificates. Tampered with passport record.


798 posted on 03/09/2013 3:43:09 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue; Fantasywriter; Seizethecarp

See #801; a FOIA request’s results would be interesting.


802 posted on 03/09/2013 10:08:01 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Smokeyblue; Fantasywriter; Seizethecarp

Also the case of a birth on foreign soil with one foreign parent and one American parent could apply to both prospective sets of parents for 0.

Same questions about 0’s type of citizenship come up if Mal and Val were his parents as if SADO and 0 SR were.


803 posted on 03/09/2013 10:17:06 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Smokeyblue

Thanks for the feedback and for your impressions!


804 posted on 03/10/2013 6:34:36 AM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Smokeyblue

Good post, and v interesting POV. One conjecture really stood out: that even Obama’s handlers were amazed at how well the ‘if you dare question anything about this ‘black’ man you’re a racist’ attack worked. I hadn’t thought of it that way, but I would bet a large sum you are right. I think they imagined so much smoke (re: a foreign birth, coupled w the lack of standard-issue, non-tampered w documentation) would raise far more questions than it did. The ‘you’re a racist’ retort worked like a magical talisman; no official, politician, judge, etc. would touch the subject for fear of destroying their career. I bet Soros laughs himself to sleep to this day over it. I still hope/believe we’ll get the last laugh.

Like you, I am fascinated by the ‘memoir’ ref. to the BC. It’s a relatively short book on the subject of growing up black & white/race relations in the US. What does BO’s BC have to do w any of that? Maybe it’s in there just to let everyone know that Obama knows the truth? Malignant Narcissists are like that. They live to pull one over on the rest of us*, BUT they like to signal the scam to those in the know. The BC incident may be Obama’s way of informing his handlers that he has proof of the truth, and they better treat him right. [I.e.: the real horror in any Malignant Narcissist’s life is the possiblity of being indebted to anyone. He wants/needs to be in total control at all times. So just in case those who advanced Obama’s career got the idea he owed them, he offered a not-so-subtle threat that he could prove foreign birth—and would do so if they tried to make too much of a puppet out of him. He’d still end up an international celebrity w plenty of $ who could choom to his heart’s content on his private HI beach, but his handlers would be out of a POTUS & a monumental financial investment. (Obama would get quite a giggle out of that, believe me. No wonder he signed himself lifetime SS protection; what does he know [about his need for it] that we don’t know?) Just an idea; who can really say for sure.]

You made a comment that caused me quite a bit of thought:

“If the Mal/Val story turns out to be correct in the end, I’ll gladly congratulate those who ferreted out the correct solution and even apologize for being so obtuse.”

I second that sentiment, w one caveat. I will always, always wonder how Obama came by such a strong Dunham physical resemblance, if he turns out to be unrelated to the Dunhams. If it’s a coincidence, it’s a pretty amazing one. Otherwise, how would anybody explain the dead ringer resemblance between a younger Stanley Armour & his grandson? The more one studies that pair, the more physical similarities emerge. How did this come about sans a genetic connection? It would be one of life’s great mysteries, if it turned out to be the case.

Thanks again for your post. You made a slew of excellent points, which were greatly appreciated.

* Here’s the reason Malignant Narcissists get such a charge out of tricking/scamming everyone around them. An indispensible component of the MN’s self-narrative is that he is the smartest person in any room he enters. The facts do not support this delusion, so the MN constantly sets up scenarios that, in his eyes, do prove it. One of the easiest and and most gratifying is to fool everyone into believing something that’s not true. If the MN can pull this off, it enables him to sit back and inwardly despise all those gullible people he so easily scammed, while patting himself on the back for his own brilliance/genius. Malignant Narcissism is a profoundly sick and twisted Personality Disorder, and this need to trick/scam everyone around him is but one aspect of it.


811 posted on 03/10/2013 11:42:03 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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