“We simply do not have ONE document that proves that Stanley Anne Dunham is the natural mother of Barrak Hussein Obama.
“And thats a fact that is not circumstantial. Pardon me for pointing that out.’
That is not my understanding of the law. The law does not require absolute proof even in criminal cases.
Criminals can be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt using ONLY circumstantial evidence.
In civil cases only a preponderance of the evidence (greater than 50%) is needed and that evidence can solely be circumstantial as well.
All plaintiffs and defendants are entitled in discovery to “the best evidence” to the greatest extent legally available at reasonable expense and convenience.
The INS FOIA documents are “the best evidence” currently available that SADO is Barry’s mom and are not just one but several that individually would suffice to lead any judge or jury to conclude who Barry’s mom most likely is beyond a reasonable doubt, IMO.
In contrast there actually are zero documents to support any other mother for Barry that I have seen.
The validity of the INS FOIA docs cannot yet be contested by making unfavorable comparisons to the documentary evidence supporting any alternative mother because, at least on the public record, there are no such documents.
The BHO Sr. INS FOIA docs CAN be entered into evidence under the federal rules of evidence (FRE), while missing hypothetical documents or hearsay in support of alternative mothers obviously can’t.
In addition, the INS FOIA docs provide a very well-documented, contemporaneous, cross-corroborated narrative as to when and where Barry’s two parents came together to conceive Barry.
Do you have an alternative mom for Barry for whom there is any documentation supporting that alternate maternity and supporting any coherent narrative supporting how, when and where she and the sperm donor came together?
Having numerous official documents supporting SADO as Barry’s mom trumps having no documents supporting any alternate mother every day, IMO.
Madelyn also left 1/2 million to Barry when she died..I just dont see her leaving her life savings to someone she dont know.. Zero is part of the dunham family..If barry was from another mother, then why would madelyn do that? Thats the way i see it anyway
I wonder if old Madelyn “Toot” left some of that money to Maya?
You make good points. However, there is another point that would be made in a logical discussion. (Not that logic plays any part in the SADO-Not-the-Mother theory, but I submit this for your consideration, Seize.) Let’s concede there is limited evidence of SADO as the biological mother. You’ve got a granny in Kenya making claims, the doc you mentioned [which, if it’s forged, requires a conspiracy as big as Jupiter, but whatever], a strong Dunham physical/family resemblance, and not much else.
In a rational discussion the next question would be twofold. 1: is there more than one explanation for this paucity of evidence? And 2: is there any solid, factual evidence supporting a different mother?
So far on the second point I have seen zero actual evidence; only this vast, nebulous, unsubstantiated conspiracy: speculation and conjecture, w zero actual facts.
On the first question, however, the unequivocal answer is YES. There is certainly at least one other explanation for the lack of natal evidence. Namely, that a foreign birth has been meticulously covered up. I.e.: from sometime at or around 1993 persons associated w Obama realized the foreign birth was a major problem and began destroying, altering and sealing documents. There is, in fact, ample evidence that this actually did occur, and additional evidence periodically comes to light. So far, this theory has far more basis in fact to back it up than the mystery-mother theory, and that’s just basic logic.
Here’s a quick analogy to illustrate the point re: logic. A group of pedestrians come upon a body splattered on the pavement at the foot of a very tall apartment complex. One of the pedestrians says, ‘This can only mean one thing: suicide.’
When the detectives arrive they set about collecting evidence. Why? If it’s a clear cut case of suicide, why even bother?
They collect evidence because they don’t know a priori if it was suicide, a tragic accident, or murder. Only evidence will reveal the answer.
The SADO-Not-the-Mother crowd doesn’t grasp this basic fact. As long as 2 or more scenarios acct for the scarcity of birth records/evidence, they can’t use that circumstance alone to ‘prove’ one theory over another. They need to build a case for their particular theory based on evidence, FACTS and probability.
Simple logic: it’s becoming a lost art.