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To: Syncro
it is a different jesus.

A "different Jesus."

Oh, that is rich. And your argument about passing by Joseph Smith first is completely illogical and frankly irrelevent, you are so busy judging others. So you (and I) understand he's in for a shock at the free pass -- no Smith -- when he arrives directly in front of our Lord for judgement. Good for him! He's acknowledged Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. He has lived as loving and moral a life as you or I, he has given back to God at every opportunity, and he has been led through some hoops to the same outcome by a false prophet. It's Smith I'd worry about if I were you, in such a position to judge as you find yourself. I believe in mercy for the merciful, as God teaches. And I pray you will receive as much mercy, forgiveness, and Love as God affords Romney or me.
950 posted on 08/12/2012 12:41:53 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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To: DRey
And your argument about passing by Joseph Smith first is completely illogical and frankly irrelevent

Well, that is what they believe.

And Romney, being a high value Mormon Bishop, has to adheare to the beliefs of the Prophets and writings.

Romney's spiritual beliefs have nothing to do with why I don't support him for President, it is because of his liberal policies.

981 posted on 08/12/2012 1:01:05 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: DRey; Syncro
And your argument about passing by Joseph Smith first is completely illogical and frankly irrelevent

Illogical?...it's mormon history.

"No man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith...every man and woman must have the certificate of Joseph Smith, junior, as a passport to their entrance into the mansion where God and Christ are... [Joseph Smith] reigns there as supreme a being in his sphere, capacity, and calling, as God does in heaven. Many will exclaim—"Oh, that is very disagreeable! It is preposterous! We cannot bear the thought!" But it is true." -Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p.289-91

1,351 posted on 08/12/2012 10:13:16 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: DRey; Syncro
And your argument about passing by Joseph Smith first is completely illogical and frankly irrelevent, you are so busy judging others. So you (and I) understand he's in for a shock at the free pass -- no Smith -- when he arrives directly in front of our Lord for judgement. Good for him! He's acknowledged Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. He has lived as loving and moral a life as you or I, he has given back to God at every opportunity, and he has been led through some hoops to the same outcome by a false prophet. It's Smith I'd worry about if I were you, in such a position to judge as you find yourself

Sounds like you've already "judged" Mitt Romney 100% spiritually fit...(if only the Mormons would treat Christians that way and stop ringing their doorbells)

I thought you said we shouldn't "judge" others? Yet you're "judging" Mitt Romney (positively)

And what other groups are you telling Christians to bring their missionaries home from evangelizing -- besides Mormons, that is? (What other religious are "spiritually fit," too? I mean, most of the cults reference a "Jesus Christ" in some way or another...so any ole reference to "Jesus" is fine...and if people start to describe "DRey" -- let's say you're real name -- online...and, hey, if that description is way off base, who cares?)

So, are you telling Christians everywhere not to witness to Jehovah's Witnesses as well as Mormons? (Since they also "acknowledge" Jesus Christ in some way)

A different Jesus

So...you're telling us, DRey, that when we see the following citations from Mormon leaders, we just are to assume they're talking about the "same" Jesus?

“Modern revelation speaks of our Lord as he that ‘ascended up on high, as also he descended below all things, in that he comprehended all things, that he might be in all and through all things, the light of truth‘ (D&C 88:6). Christ's rise to the throne of exaltation was preceded by his descent below all things. Only by submitting to the powers of demons and death and hell could he, in the resurrection, serve as our exemplar of a saved being... (McConkie and Millet, Doctrinal Commentary on the Book of Mormon, vol. 1, p. 234)

Please also see...
* McConkie, Doctrinal New Testament Commentary, Vol. 3, p. 238 where he said the Mormon "jesus" "Needs salvation...Came to earth to work out His own salvation
* McConkie, "The Seven Deadly Heresies,' in Speeches of the Year, 1980 [Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 1981] p. 78 where he said: "There was only one perfect being, the Lord Jesus. If men had to be perfect and live all of the law strictly, wholly, and completely, there would be only one saved person in eternity." [cited in Come, Follow Me: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide 1983 (1983) p. 72]

1,463 posted on 08/12/2012 11:40:48 AM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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