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To: Gator113; Jeff Head

Then why is he such a liar.

Even on this thread he claimed that JR was a Romney supporter in 2008.

It doesn’t get any lower than that, nor more absurd.


2,314 posted on 08/12/2012 9:03:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12; Jeff Head

ansel12, I have had a long day and I am tired. I am not up to a debate/fight. I am responding only because I didn’t want you to think that I had ignored you.

But I will say this... I have never known Jeff to lie. I do not know the context of the post you are referring to and I won’t be going through over 2000 posts to find it.

Now, I didn’t say that I agree with everything he may say or believe in, but I do see him as a solid conservative, a patriot and country loving man. I don’t care about him being a Mormon, because I don’t care about any of that kind of stuff. I am not pro-morman and I am not anti-mormon.... I just don’t give a hoot.

Oops... I wrote more than I intended.

Good night....


2,357 posted on 08/12/2012 9:30:24 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: ansel12; Gator113; Jim Robinson
Jim was abjectly against Mccain in 2008 and when it came down to Mccain vs. Romney, my recollection is that he had positive things to say about Romney in the hopes that Romney would defeat McCain.

That is my memory of events. I will ping Jim to ask him to have a say in this.

It is clear Jim has not intention of supporting Romney under any circumstances now...and although I do not agree with it, I respect it...and can undertsand, given Romney's past record, why that is so.

But, my position is that Romney is not running on his past record as regards abortion, homosexual rights, gun control, etc. He has a web site where he has laid out a very conservative agenda for addressing our nation's economic and social issues. Romney did better than most of us expected in his VP pick, which I view as a signal that he intends to stand by those conservative commitments he is making now...which are anything but pro-abortion, pro-homosexualoity, anti-gun, etc., etc. that is dredged up from his past.

Perhaps it is all just political and not a true, heart-felt change on Romney's part. I do not claim to be able to see into a man's heart and make that absolute judgement. I will leave that to God. I can understand how people would not trust him, and in almost any other circumstance I would much prefer to see him spend a few years as a Senator or other elected representative proving the sincerity of his new-found positions.

But we do not have the luxury of that now.

Romney was not my first, second, third or fourth pick. But he won the GOP primaries and he is what we have to go against a self-admitted homosexual abetting, most abortion supporting politician in history who is right now, abjectly destroying this Republic, its economy, its free market, its foreign policy, its borders, its moral values, etc., etc..

So I will take Romney's word and his commitments...along with the endoresements of conservatives he has now gotten from people I have deep respect for over that American-hating individual who currently occupies the White House. I believe we must have an absolute, all-hands effort to not give that radical the opportunity for four more years to complete the job of destroying this country and "fundamentally changing" it that he has begun.

If I am wrong about Jim's positive comments in 2008 about Romney over McCain (and I do not think I am), then it is a simple mistake and not a "lie" in the least. It was just about as hectic around here in 2008 as it is now.

You, however, seem so anxious to discount anything that might be said positive about Romney in the upcoming contest between him and Obama that you will fire off absolutes regarding people's character and intent, when you could not be futher from the truth. You do not know my heart. You do not have enough experience with me personally (IMHO) to make the type of absolute judgement regarding my intent and character that you made. I am telling you to your face that I did not lie. Plain and simple, as I have explained here.

I hope that helps your understanding of who I am and why I said what I did. But in the end, what you think of me does not impact my statement or position.

Jim? Did you make some positive comments about Romney in the heat of the 2008 campaign when we all took part in trying to deny McCain the nomination?

BTW, Gator, thanks for your kind words regarding me in your response. We have been discussing the preservation of our Republic for many years now here on FR, and I appreciate your support and defense of my character and honor. God's speed to you my FRiend.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm

2,555 posted on 08/13/2012 8:19:34 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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