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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: CWSNTEXAS
There are far too many Christians who do much to destroy what it is Christ would prefer us be like.

If you're up to reading a great author, and a great book, on what true true Christianity should more resemble on this earth, I suggest C. S. Lewis' Mere Christianity. I honestly thing you'd enjoy it.

2,801 posted on 08/13/2012 5:16:06 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: ansel12

I guess if they wanted you to know, then I guess they would have said good bye to you.

But it’s not up to me to give you their names. So, I won’t.


2,802 posted on 08/13/2012 5:17:42 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

I’ve seen a few say they were going to leave.

Who are the dozens? Can you name twelve?


2,803 posted on 08/13/2012 5:18:50 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: ansel12

Oh ansel- you misguided, young punk.

I am nearing my 80th birthday and by the time you are my age, you will not have lived half the life I have.

You remind me of that Carville fellow on CNN in your ability to only hear and see what fits your current tirade. I am neither “pro-Mormon” or “anti-Christian”. I am anti-ignorance and bigotry. Especially by members of a faith I have long admired.

It is you anti-Mormon bigots for whom I have no tolerance. I pity you.

While you’re mind is younger and sharper than mine- I will forget more than you ever know young man.


2,804 posted on 08/13/2012 5:18:50 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: nicmarlo

Thank you nic. I am a long-time fan of C.S. Lewis and enjoy all of his writing.


2,805 posted on 08/13/2012 5:21:29 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: nicmarlo

Thank you nic. I am a long-time fan of C.S. Lewis and enjoy all of his writing.


2,806 posted on 08/13/2012 5:21:32 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: nicmarlo

Very dramatic, but since I never asked for a name, but asked for the actual number, why don’t tell me that.


2,807 posted on 08/13/2012 5:22:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Jeff Head
I pray, as another tender mercy from He that is Mighty to Save, that the good Lord will allow me to live long enough to see our Republic back in good, capable, all-American hands of leadership if it be His will, and see our nation turn around from the fatal path it is currently on.

Amen Jeff. And I so very glad God has kept you here, for your family, your friends, and your fight. God bless you and keep you, friend.

2,808 posted on 08/13/2012 5:22:43 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Arrogance is not a good quality.


2,809 posted on 08/13/2012 5:22:55 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: Third Person

Nor is ignorance.


2,810 posted on 08/13/2012 5:24:55 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Actually you are a drama queen bigot who’s only interest in this thread is to use the fight for Mormonism as a way to attack Christians. That is the dog that you have in this thread.

It is a form of trolling.


2,811 posted on 08/13/2012 5:25:58 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Third Person

Obviously, if they cared enough about you to know, they would have cared enough to tell you good bye. A public announcement within a thread or a thread created for their opus does not equate to their being the only ones who’ve left.


2,812 posted on 08/13/2012 5:26:12 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: ansel12

Because, ansell, the ‘actual number’ continues to grow weekly.


2,813 posted on 08/13/2012 5:27:03 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Third Person

The difference is, arrogance is already learned, therefore can’t be.

Ignorance on the other hand is a condition and can be overcome by education. My hope is that if people hear the truth enough, they might actually begin to understand.

And besides- aren’t we Jews supposed to be “arrogant”? After all- we are “chosen”!


2,814 posted on 08/13/2012 5:27:46 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: Third Person

The difference is, arrogance is already learned, therefore can’t be undone.

Ignorance on the other hand is a condition and can be overcome by education. My hope is that if people hear the truth enough, they might actually begin to understand.

And besides- aren’t we Jews supposed to be “arrogant”? After all- we are “chosen”!


2,815 posted on 08/13/2012 5:28:19 PM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Maybe your a great guy, and maybe I’m ignorant, but your posts come across as pompous and holier-than-thou.


2,816 posted on 08/13/2012 5:28:46 PM PDT by Third Person (A man's got to know his limitations.)
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To: Jeff Head
Bravo, Sir! Very nicely stated!

I will always remember the tears welling up in my eyes as I was lucky enough to watch videos of you walking at different stages after your surgery. I always loved reading your posts but watching you walk was better!

I pray for continued blessings for you and your family. Your attitude is contagious! :)

2,817 posted on 08/13/2012 5:28:55 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Me too. He’s amazing. His insights are beyond amazing.


2,818 posted on 08/13/2012 5:29:38 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
they are. I have seen dozens leave in just the past few days

Well, I asked him if he could document that. Your seconding doesn't exactly document it. Were there "opuses", or declarations of, "I'm leaving and won't be back"?

I've seriously thought of staying away until after the election myself but not for any reasons given by Mitt supporters or detractors.

Members here are very politically aware and I honestly don't believe a single one will change his mind because of any arguments put forward by pro or con Romney. Every political thread has pro and con Romney comments. My mind has been made up before Romney was even thought about as a candidate and probably pre dates his father's aborted run for the presidency. I cannot and will not vote for anyone who swallows Mormonism, add to that that Romney's a flaming liberal and it becomes doubly impossible to do so. There are many of us who are dedicated to exposing Mormonism for what it is and praying for those who are wrapped up in this false religion and have been doing so long before Romney came to the forefront. Are we to stop our efforts to educate, pray for and try to expose Mormons to the truth, now that Romney is the candidate?

2,819 posted on 08/13/2012 5:29:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (If you fear Obama, you'll vote for Romney. If you fear God, you won't.)
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To: mojitojoe; Elsie; All
{To Elz} Did you know that you were mentioned last night on Twitter as being a scary, crazy person?

Only Twitter? Where you ne'er have to document a single comment 'cause there's just not 'nough room for more characters? Yeah, we know NOTHING vaporous is ever uttered by serious twitter scholars. /sarc.

Besides, you know how people get properly upset when you break into Halloween intonement when school has even started yet...hold your horses on that stuff til October

2,820 posted on 08/13/2012 5:30:40 PM PDT by Colofornian (Why don't you 'birthers' ask Mitt about his 'spirit-birth' on planet near Kolob? Hypocrisy @ work?)
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