Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney

Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Dang, that is it for me.

Two FRiends who I’ve grown to repect and admire now turned against eachother.

The devil is working his evil magic on this site and we best wake up from it.

Make me think obama is winning.

[mojitojoe]

BILLIONS FOR JIHAD From Obongo

Seniors may not get cost of living raises anymore and have their ss checks withheld, but Omuslim is going to take care of his muzzie bros!
THIS is the sh*t that should be cut!
BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!
Obama’s 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and “passed by the full committee.”
It gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/obamas-supplemental-bill-passes-gives-billions-to-enemies/
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.
Read the summary from David Obey’s office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.
• $3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces
• $400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces
• Afghanistan: $1.52 billion, $86 million above the request
• West Bank and Gaza: $665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza
• Jordan: $250 million, $250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance
• Egypt: $360 million, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance, $50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance
• Pakistan: $1.9 billion, $591 million above the request
• Iraq: $968 million, $336 million above the request
• Oversight: $20 million, $13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq
• Lebanon: $74 million
• International Food Assistance: $500 million, $200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis
• Refugee Assistance: $343 million, $50 million above the request, …including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)
• Disaster Assistance: $200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia
•Peacekeeping: $837 million for United Nations
peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic
• Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
The mainstream media remains silent on this but the International News has now picked up the story http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22164
— and then there is Obama’s $108 billion IMF bailout scheme http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/13/obamas-100-billion-imf-bailout-scheme/
in addition to the Supplemental.
And THIS is what Obama is doing to American taxpayers:
THE BIGGEST TAX HIKE IN AMERICAN HISTORY:
http://www.atr.org/days-thebr-largest-tax-hikes-history-a5370
PDF Version:
http://www.atr.org/files/files/090310pr-jan2011taxes.pdf
Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26990#
ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL GIVE AWAY NEARLY $6 MILLION OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO RESTORE 63 HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SITES, INCLUDING ISLAMIC MOSQUES AND MINARETS, IN 55 NATIONS. See the State Department document here.
http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-of-policy-and-evaluations/ambassadors-fund/afcp2010list.pdf

[Resettozero]

If and when you truly study the words of Jesus, you will see things differently than you now do. Perhaps you are not the only Jews participating on this thread. Have you considered that possibility? Is there a chance you have been embarrassing yourself on FR this afternoon?

[presently no screen name]

how long are you going to let this anti-Mormon seminar posting go on?

Typical mimic. A shame you don't have an original thought.

You clearly show that you want to remain an uninformed voter - just pull the lever - because anyone will do. Jim Jones, L. Ron Hubbard, David Keresh, Sun Myung Moon or Muhammad.

[mojitojoe]

On his first day in office, Mitt Romney will issue an executive order that paves the way for the federal government to issue Obamacare waivers to all fifty states. He will then work with Congress to repeal the full legislation as quickly as possible.
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One of the main reasons I decided to vote for him. I know how much Jim hates Obamacare, and ranted about it for months as we all did, so it puzzles me why he would want the Marxist Kenyan to win so he, as well as all of us get stuck with it being implemented. I’m so confused.

[blasater1960]

“If the GOP wants a POS LIBERAL as their ‘chosen’ “

Who is the GOP? If Conservative Christianity wanted, they could have organized at the grass roots level LONG AGO and taken over the GOP. In the Primaries, Christianity could have stopped Romney. But the church is lazy now, right? Where is todays Falwell? He wasnt a perfect spokesman but he activated the church into politics. The GOP didnt select Romney as their chosen. An unengaged Christendom did. Highlighted by thinking like this.

“Gabe Lyons, 32, is emblematic of the transformation among many younger evangelicals. He grew up in Lynchburg, Va., attending Mr. Falwell’s church. But he has shied away from politics. Instead, he heads the Fermi Project, a loose “collective” dedicated to teaching evangelicals to shape culture through other means, including media and the arts.”

“I believe politics just isn’t as important to younger evangelicals as it has been for the older generations because we recognize from experience that politics does not shape the morality of a culture,” he said. “It simply reflects what the larger culture wants.”

[Springfield Reformer]

I didn’t say Romney was a Marxist. At least not in that post. I was just answering a hypothetical with a reasonable counter-hypothetical. The curious fact that you understood it to apply to Romney is a phenomenon that occurred entirely in your own mind. I suggest you look there for your answer.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

I can't believe what this site has sunk to.

Neither can I. Back when I first signed up, dozens upon noisy dozens of posters willfully bickering and squabbling with -- essentially, trolling -- this site's founder and OWNER would have been considered unthinkable.

"This is not directed to anyone in particular, but this thread in general."

[Jim Robinson]

Where did I ever say I wanted the Marxist Kenyan to win? That’s news to me.

But Romney appears to have a whole lot of people fooled. His own staff doesn’t call him Mr. Etch-A-Sketch for nothing.

[Resettozero]

I’m so confused.

Rampant epidemic of that on this thread.

On his first day in office, Mitt Romney will issue an executive order...

You surely are aware that Willard Romney is known as a promise-breaker. Ask Rick Santorum, for one.

[blasater1960]

“Perhaps you are not the only Jews participating on this thread”

I am also a Jewish Freeper and would agree with him.

[CWSNTEXAS]

I have not embarrassed myself in the least nor did I ever claim or assume to be the only Jew here.

Jews by nature and in study are curious and always in search of truths. In study, I have studied the teachings of Jesus, Muhammed and others.

I believe I know enough about Christianity to say without hesitation that the judgmental attitudes expressed by many people here are contradictory to his teaching. And without respect, to assume that everyone who studies the words of Jesus will see things differently is nothing but that- an assumption.

Any teaching is open to interpretation Reset. In spite of what some claim, there is not and absolute in any faith. G*d’s work has always been done by imperfect people in an imperfect world.

If your motivation was to “trick” is hasn’t worked. If your motivation was to “challenge”- I am not playing. If your motivation was to embarrass? Sorry, I am not.

[silentreignofheroes]

I’ve been following this since yesterday,sure is different than what I’ve seen on FR.It came up after Romney picked Ryan as a running mate.Could it be that some are afraid Romney could pull this out and get elected?Sure is strange.

[kevao]

I equate your observation that human beings don’t ‘count as ABO’ with fallacy.

For ABO people, removing Obama is *imperative*. Thus, for an ABO person, it is not an option to vote for a candidate that has zero chance of defeating Obama. Therefore, neither Goode nor Hoefling, who have zero change to defeat Obama, could possibly be considered a serious ABO candidate.

Fallacious? Maybe for you. And for Dredd Scott (still LMFAO!).

[presently no screen name]

Too bad your contempt for evil being exposed - you are not capable of understanding the difference about Mormonism vs it’s people. Jeff isn’t running for president and what ever his beliefs are will NOT affect you!

Did barry affect you when he was strolling the streets of Chicago - he’s still the same person - but now he does affect you! It’s not rocket science to know but yet it goes over your head.

[jimsin]

'LMFAO at that reasoning'

haahaa yer right as rain Glock man...these folks appear to me to be wanderers in the HANGING GARDENS OF MARIJUANA ................

Reason is obviously not their strong suit...glands are...that is ...they think with their glands....bwahahahah

'They must be in the. Choom bus w Obama to buy into that.'

THEY ARE definitely RIDERS IN THE SKY....bwHAAHAAH headed on a long journey into the rings of Saturn ...hell i think they way they talk most of 'em have already set up residence there and are now living there on the corner of AIN'T GOT A CLUE and NEVER WILL...

[mojitojoe]

President Ronald Reagan was right when he said “Now, so there will be no misunderstanding. It’s not my intention to do away with government. It is rather to make it work — work with us, not over us; to stand by our side, not ride on our back.” Mr. Reagan spoke these words at his inaugural on January 20, 1980. At that moment in time our country was driven to a precipice via a myriad of misguided policies, but it was President Carter, and his band of liberal Democrats that took the final steps off the ledge. Mr. Reagan caught us safely from the fall through inner-strength, after he survived an assassination attempt, and then brought to bear his uncommon display of common sense on our nations past economic calamity. President Reagan successfully led the country through the last battle in the cold war, renewed our national purpose, and provided leadership to a nation in dire need of it.

This nation has spent $1.8 Trillion dollars more than it has taken in in tax receipts, it has $14 Trillion on its national credit card, and has completely consumed all funds held in our entitlement programs. The only way that Medicare, Medicaid, or even Social Security gets paid is via a printing press buttressed by the willingness of foreign governments to underwrite it. That is what the “full faith and credit” of the United States has come to, a promise to pay interest on an obligation to a foreign government. If we are not able to meet the obligations we presently have; why do we seek to create more of them via a nationalization of our health care system? In short: Uncle Sam is broke, the US economy is shrinking, and the President of the United States wants the federal government to run 1/6 of the US economy that health care represents; and the government is unable to run a monopoly, the US Post Office, at a profit.

As President Reagan warned in his speech in 1961, on the dangers of socialized medicine; the American people would not accept socialism outright, but under the banner of liberalism we would accept every facet of socialism. For the past sixty years the entitlement programs that started as humanitarian safety nets, under Democratic majorities, have since grown into retirement programs to the exclusion of private investment, and the most fraud ridden delivery of health care any nation has ever witnessed. Remember where we are presently situated fiscally, how long will it be until those promises are worthless? As you and I can only live beyond our means for a limited time, so too with governments, one way or the other the printing press will be stopped. When we fail to meet these obligations the liberal democrats will aim for the rich, and when they miss, it will be our wallets that they hit.

Obama is the proverbial drunken sailor who after spending all of his and his friends money on a crooked card games pleads with his Captain for an advance on his pay to send to his sainted Mother in Milwaukee but in his mind knowing that he will win it all back in the next deal.

He was never a worthy candidate but the Left insisted and now he is in the electoral contest of his life based on what he “accomplished” not just a meaningless resume.
To reiterate the most arrogant statement liar-in-chief made during obamacare mtg w/ Republicans, “We Won”. That’s right—Republican’s WON in November. They have the dem’s by their balls!! Besides, why do we have to raise the ceiling anyway? The gov’t takes in enough to pay the military, social security, medicare. Remember-Job One of our gov’t is NATIONAL SECURITY!!! Why can’t the gov’t live WITHIN their means?! WE ALL DO!!!!! Why do the dem’s keep wanting to spend spend spend our money?! It’s NEVER enough!! It’s like the collection plate at church. Never enough! Besides, it’s OUR money, not theirs!! Serfdom is already around the corner!!!!!!