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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: Kevmo
'I have no reason to hike to mitt's...'

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1,381 posted on 08/12/2012 10:38:09 AM PDT by jimsin (S)
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To: Jim Robinson

I support you Jim and I just put my money where my mouth is. Thanks for this site.


1,382 posted on 08/12/2012 10:38:23 AM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: centurion316

Stop acting naive. It’s very simple. The more that vote for R&R the better chance they will win. It’s as simple as that.


1,383 posted on 08/12/2012 10:38:38 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What a disgusting picture to use to express voter dislike for a candidate. This child doesn’t know what he is saying with his fingers. Someone he loves forced him to do this and it is vile. It’s bad enough the people of the USA have allowed over 55 million unborn children to be murdered in the womb. Now we are demoralizing little children to mimic dirty nasty finger signs. No wonder the Republicans are so disorganized in our social and political beliefs.


1,384 posted on 08/12/2012 10:40:22 AM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: TheOldLady
RepoGirl’s account has not been closed.

That's a shame.

1,385 posted on 08/12/2012 10:40:38 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: montanajoe

Thank you very much, montanajoe!!


1,386 posted on 08/12/2012 10:40:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Parley Baer

I have to give credit to Ryan for wanting to do something about the budget defecit, but his plan wouldn’t balance the nation’s budget until 10 years or more down the road.

That’s too late for me but more importantly its probably too late for this country.

The RINO Republican leaders in Congress are unwilling to go cold turkey on entitlements.

The plan of austerity Greece has imposed on it right now intends to balance that country’s budget in five years, probably too late in their case but quicker than Ryan’s plan for this country.

Business as usual politicians are kicking the can down the road and I suspect they know it.

When the bubble bursts in a few years or less they will go the European route in the US with tax hikes and budget cuts simulteneously.

That’s a moderate plan, not a conservtive one.

The Obama-Romney difference boils down to the speed with which the country goes down the tubes financially and into austerity and or bankruptcy.


1,387 posted on 08/12/2012 10:41:51 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Maryhere

1,388 posted on 08/12/2012 10:43:31 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: mojitojoe; All
I love FR and yet again I’m getting the feeling that maybe I don’t fit.
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I know the feeling. I feel the same way. I just cant refer any more people to FR right now. When I do they send me WTH emails or call me and ask me why I sent them to this site and why I am here. They think it’s fringe, kooky. It’s not at ALL like it was when I joined. It makes me very sad, but it is what it is and I cannot support a site that in any way, shape or form supports or does anything to help the re-election of the Kenyan Marxist narcissist in the WH. Romney is not even 1/100000000 as bad as Soetoro who is hell bent on destroying this country and redistributing the wealth. He HATES this country and wants to being it down. Romney doesn’t want that and Ryan SURE doesn’t.


Romney was not my first choice either. If it were not for foreign policy issues, I'd would have preferred Ron Paul. Wish I could dig up Barry Goldwater though. I just think most social issues should be left to the States to decide or better yet, the people themselves. One exception I have is on abortion, to deny one the right to life is to deny them liberty and free choice and to terminate it is wrong unless all other options are exhausted. I think we all have to step back and remember the old Ronald Reagan adage where the guy that agrees with you 80% of the time is still your friend, not your enemy. Heck, I took an online test, FWIW, and my score was Ron Paul 84% and Romney 80%.

I am pretty much more on the libertarian wing myself, more of a Robert A. Heinlein or L. Neil Smith (I'm into science fiction). I guess I know what it is like to be different, I most likely have Asperger's, so maybe that's why I'm more tolerant of people with different behaviours. I'd like to see the bullying of people with differing opinions stop on all sides although if one is against freedom, our country and the Constitution, then we have the right to take them to task and fight them.

Some pick on Romney's religion. I have no problems with his religion. As long as one's religion does not advocate flying planes into buildings, animal/human sacrifice or other means of depriving one's right to life and liberty, they can worship rocks, The Great Electron or the giant hoot-owl with the flame in the belly at the Bohemian Grove. I have no trouble with Mormons.

Romney is the only game in town that can beat Obama and if we want to beat him, we have to get behind him. WE can't cut our noses off to spite our faces.
1,389 posted on 08/12/2012 10:44:30 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I do not support Romney and dis not vote for him in the primary. I like Ryan a lot though and wish he was at the top of the ticket.

My vote is one against the communist Marxist anti-American zealot trying to collapse America.

BTw - If I am a mittbot for being ABO you are an obamabot for for helping Obama have a second term. let that sink in.


1,390 posted on 08/12/2012 10:46:00 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: kevao

“Do you have any evidence that the GOP-e *forced* Gingrich, Perry, Santorum, and Bachmann to all run against each other and to hang on to the very bitter end while Romney won state after state with a minority of the vote? If not, then face the fact that we conservatives — by splitting our votes among so many candidates — are responsible for Romney winning.”

Painting the GOPe as the omnipotent boogieman helps deflect responsibility for the outcome.


1,391 posted on 08/12/2012 10:46:10 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: SE Mom
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1,392 posted on 08/12/2012 10:46:28 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: fabian

2nd


1,393 posted on 08/12/2012 10:47:52 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: CWSNTEXAS

Agreed.


1,394 posted on 08/12/2012 10:49:55 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: silentreignofheroes

It doesn’t make me “wonder”. It’s horrifying.


1,395 posted on 08/12/2012 10:50:19 AM PDT by CWSNTEXAS (The Jewish Pope)
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To: Judge Kovitzky

What candidates are you planning to support on election day?

Hovde or Fitzgerald for the Senate (leaning toward Hovde but only because Fitzgerald is a reliable voice in the Assembly already). Boland for the House (Army Colonel Ret. focused on fiscal reform). And Virgil Goode for the Executive Office (a far better man than either Obama or Romney). We have internal state elections to decide as well, but I reckon that won't interest you as much.


1,396 posted on 08/12/2012 10:50:23 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Jeff Chandler
Welcome to the revival meeting . There’s no smoking in the tent.

How about drinking? ;)

1,397 posted on 08/12/2012 10:50:36 AM PDT by Chesterbelloc
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To: cripplecreek

and Obama isn’t? Puleezzzzzzzzzz


1,398 posted on 08/12/2012 10:51:13 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: manc

I coudldn’t careless about the mormon thing, much better than a raving muslim nutjob and Ryan shored up the base.
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I agree


1,399 posted on 08/12/2012 10:52:33 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: centurion316

Not voting for Romney is usually not about a third party movement.

It’s about not following lock step behind the GOP no matter what it does.

As I have said, the GOP-e types know that many will vote for whoever they put up, as in lesser of two evils

Therefore, they keep marginalizing Conservatives and run left leaning RINO’s.

The blame will be on the GOP when Romney loses, not on those that refuse to help them continue their mission of promoting liberal candidates by voting for them on a ABO reasoning ideal.

They are pretty good at getting republicans to vote for inferior candidates as they sit back and laugh at how they have snookered their base.

The Tea Party will survive, Conservatives will continue to be relevant at the grass roots level and in political office as we vote more and more of them in on the local level.


1,400 posted on 08/12/2012 10:53:41 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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