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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: pops88

Reading comprehension would mean repeating something someone said in a fashion that at least resembles the statement.

You failed.


1,101 posted on 08/12/2012 3:09:52 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: DRey

You think a leader in a cult that teaches people that they can become Gods themselves and have worshipers and polygamous wives as they rule over their own planet, and that the true God that we worship, is just one of them, is just Jim Dandy?

That must be some church you go to.


1,102 posted on 08/12/2012 3:11:49 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

“polygamous wives”

Umm you DO realize that was outlawed in the 1800 before they were allowed to become a state don’t you?

Where are you getting your talking points from DU? Cause you sure sound like them these days.


1,103 posted on 08/12/2012 3:15:23 AM PDT by txradioguy (Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!)
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To: Kevmo

well...kemo...do us a favor and hike on over to MITTS HOME PAGE HERE’S THE URL

http://www.mittromney.com/issues

READ HIS STANCE ON ALL THE ISSUES ...ALL OF WHICH MAKE SENSE TO THE SENSIBLE..

then you hike back here and tell us which ones you don’t like and why...

we’re waiting....jeeesh..


1,104 posted on 08/12/2012 3:16:10 AM PDT by jimsin (S)
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To: txradioguy

Umm, read the post again.


1,105 posted on 08/12/2012 3:18:40 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

To be fair, once upon a time, the Jews practiced polygamy. And had slaves. And created and worshiped a golden cow. But, God can still change things with His people.


1,106 posted on 08/12/2012 3:19:46 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: ansel12
As I've stated to you, time and time again tonight, no, I don't think Joseph Smith's teachings are "Jim Dandy." You are now behaving like a liberal, beaten and grasping and now telling big ugly "fibs." Do you want me to restate what I've said all night?

Joseph Smith sucks. Mitt Romney not Joseph Smith. Mitt Romney loves Jesus and aspires to righteousness. Obama doesn't. Mitt Romney mislead by Joseph Smith. Joseph Smith sucks...oh, wait...I've said that a thousand times tonight...

And yes, it is "some church" I go to. It preaches that we will speak where the Bible speaks, and be silent where the Bible is silent, so that we may all worship God together without dogmas and manmade creeds coming between us. It is a revival of the apostolic church and grew out of the American-born Second Great Awakening. It is the largest American-born denomination in the world -- even more populous than LDS. It has no man-made hierarchy so doesn't get much attention, always flying under the radar. It is the church that raised Ronald Reagan, and the one currently attended by America's longest-serving governor. Go figure!

Good night.
1,108 posted on 08/12/2012 3:22:56 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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To: Resettozero

the person you were replying to is a retread troll, don’t feed the trolls ;)


1,109 posted on 08/12/2012 3:23:10 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Choose, a communist, socialist, or Patriot)
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To: sf4dubya

No, you have made it clear that you don’t even realize that social conservatism is what it all is built on, without that foundation, then social liberalism will rule and the home for that is the democrat party, and fiscal liberalism.

The more religious, the more faithful, then the more likely a person is to vote conservatively, and republican, the less religious, then the more likely to vote liberal democrat.


1,110 posted on 08/12/2012 3:27:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: DRey

Mitt Romney is a devotee of Joseph Smith, Stake President Romney excommunicated people for things like you are claiming that he thinks, Mitt is a true, devoted follower of Joseph Smith.

The Romneys have served Joseph Smith’s cult continuously, for 170 years.


1,112 posted on 08/12/2012 3:31:52 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: sf4dubya

Yes, that too. Some people are still ‘lost in the desert’ of their own making, for most of their lives. :)


1,114 posted on 08/12/2012 3:33:34 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

All that is explained by the bible and has nothing to do with Joseph Smith and the bible that he wrote when he started a new cult religion.


1,115 posted on 08/12/2012 3:33:59 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: ansel12

Yep. Joseph Smith’s a heretic. Wouldn’t want to be standing next to him when he meets God. Or you for that matter. I’ll still pray for you though.


1,116 posted on 08/12/2012 3:35:39 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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To: RaisingCain

so I take it you’ll be staying home.

No, I will vote for Romney against Obama the Socialist!!!


1,117 posted on 08/12/2012 3:36:16 AM PDT by Chief901 (Obama Septic Tank Campaign Ads, full of sh!t and smell like crap)
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To: Jim Robinson
Have to ask the same question that pertains to all the Anybody But Romney folks. What do you envision happening if you are successful in taking Romney down? What will another 4 years of Obama and his Executive Orders do to America and Freedom? Do you see some upside that many of us cannot? Or, are you merely conceding that the Nation is screwed beyond repair and deciding that another 4 of Obama makes no difference - to quote Joplin, "Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose..."have you decided we're there?
1,118 posted on 08/12/2012 3:36:26 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Jim Robinson

“....makes it all but impossible for me to support him.”

So there’s still a chance?


1,119 posted on 08/12/2012 3:37:01 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: ansel12

Hey, I don’t disagree with your points on Mormonism. I don’t agree with a lot of their thinking, and I put the problem on the Joseph Smith ‘prophecies’ they adhere to.

However....with that said, I still preferred my daughters to have Mormon friends when they were growing up to the promiscuous daughters of unbelievers. I still prefer someone with morals that are akin to God’s values than Satan’s Muslims, particularly the one in the White House right now.

No third party will walk in the door in 2013.

So, which one I be helping get through that door this November is a no brainer for me.


1,120 posted on 08/12/2012 3:38:45 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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