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To: Seizethecarp

That Philippines reference is from an INS memo from April 1964: “After alien stated he was married, he said he was separated and that they may get a divorce. The wife in the Philippines from whom he is separated is a USC.”

The divorce decree was issued in March. Whether Obama Sr. had heard about this by April I don’t know. In the divorce, the court approved service of process of the petition on Obama Sr. by registered mail return receipt, and Obama Sr. did sign the receipt, which is in the divorce file. But he never filed an answer to the petition nor did he make any appearance in the proceeding.

I suspect what prompted Stanley Ann to file for divorce was her growing relationship with Lolo Soetoro, the Indonesian. I think it unlikely that Stanley Ann would have the divorce petition served on Obama Sr. out of the blue. There was probably a letter to him telling him to expect a divorce petition and telling him that she was dating a man from Indonesia.

Obama Sr. probably mis-remembered this as the Philippines when talking to the INS about her and he may have been under the impression she and her new man were going off to his home country.

Consider the August 1961 communications Obama Sr. had with the INS. He told them Stanley Ann was attending Washington State University that semester. But that’s not where she was attending, she was attending the University of Washington. Obama Sr. couldn’t even be troubled to remember what college she was going to, this woman who supposedly had just given birth to his baby.

I think when he gained his doubts about whether he was the real father of the baby, from that point forward he could not have cared less about what she or the baby were doing, at least until years later.

As to where she had the baby, I don’t know. The shenanigans surrounding the birth certificate do suggest to me the cover-up has something to do with place of birth.

Did she go alone and pregnant to see his parents in Kenya (unaware of his wife and children there) in order to enlist them on her side? I don’t know.

Did she go back pregnant to the Seattle area or some other place in humiliation, and was cared for by relatives, perhaps relying on the generosity of Canada to cover the expenses of childbirth? I don’t know.

The Bomford document is clearly a forgery, and personally I doubt that any information on it was derived from viewing a real Kenyan birth certificate for BHO II.


61 posted on 08/01/2012 10:42:15 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss
As to where she had the baby, I don’t know. The shenanigans surrounding the birth certificate do suggest to me the cover-up has something to do with place of birth.

The latest Arpaio press conference proved that anyone could easily obtain a birth certificate saying "born in Hawaii" even if the child was born elsewhere, or some time ago. So, if SAD and BHO were the parents, there would be no need for a forgery, even if Zero were born elsewhere. Or, if SAD was the mother and another man the father, the forgery would not have needed to mess around with her name, only the father's. Yet her name is messed with - layers - part ball point pen and part fine tip marker, which did not exist in 1961. So, if she was the mother, and a "fake but real" birth certificate could have been obtained no matter where the birth took place, there would have been no need to forger a b.c. with her name on it. Her name would have already been on a birth certificate.

63 posted on 08/01/2012 11:01:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Meet the New Boss
Obama Sr. probably mis-remembered this as the Philippines when talking to the INS about her and he may have been under the impression she and her new man were going off to his home country.

ROTFLMAO! What crazy speculations - pretzel contortionism! Oh, btw - which Lolo? There are several photos of at least two different "Lolos" on the other long thread.

64 posted on 08/01/2012 11:03:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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