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To: Seizethecarp

What I said is fact IF you accept that Stanley Ann Dunham’s grandmother is descended from John Bunch.

I said, “the African genes that were found in members of the Bunch family.” Those genes are on the Y-chromosome. Stanley Ann, nor Madelyn, nor Leona McCurry carry THOSE genes.

I am an honest, sincere investigator, and I resemble your implication. (Yes, that’s a joke.)

My point was that even IF John Punch was father to John Bunch and even IF THAT particular John Bunch was the progenitor of Stanley Ann’s grandmother, genes on his Y-chromosome will NOT be found in Stanley Ann Dunham. Nor her son. Nor her daughter.

The DNA that was tested did not belong to Obama, or his mother, or his grandmother, or his great-grandmother.

SOME male members of the MANY Bunch families allegedly got their Y-chromosomes tested and some of them were found to have these so-called “African” genes.

You used the word “probable”, if I recall. I was simply pointing out that, as Rush Limbaugh said, it’s probably a fairytale. Professional genealogists know better.


272 posted on 08/05/2012 2:01:20 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson
I apologize. I have revisited the claimed DNA link between Obama as described on the Ancestry.com/Obama link regarding the “African DNA” and you are entirely correct that it is the y-chromosome of the male Bunches that was tested.

http://www.ancestry.com/obama

The word “probable” that Rush correctly points to as not supporting a claim of fact referred to the assumption that the first John Bunch was the son of John Punch, the “first slave.” Rush does not question the African blood of the Bunches.

It is a fact that y-DNA testing proves that the Bunch family descendants of John Bunch and the next five male descendants of John Bunch all had in common African chromosome most probably originating from John Punch.

Between Barry and the last male Bunch ancestor, Nathaniel Bunch, are six generations of females who would NOT have African genes exclusive to the y-DNA chromosome, but who, none-the-less, would be descended from all of the male Bunches who did, as would Barry.

273 posted on 08/05/2012 3:44:56 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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