“So while we have briefly touched on the topic of the thread, what evidence is there that the woman on the left, Valerie Sarruf, gave birth to baby Barry, her son by Malcolm X, according to the Mal-Val narrative?
Where could she and Malcolm X have been together in 1960, the most likely time of the conception. Is there any evidence?”
If Obama is a year older than he now says, and his own web site originally admitted that fact, then he was likely born in 1960 and conceived in 1959. Where would Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been for Obama to have been conceived in 1959? Egypt? Africa?Certainly Malcolm X was there. Wonder if Val was too?
“Malcolm X had visited the United Arab Republic, Sudan, Nigeria, and Ghana in 1959 to make arrangements for a tour by Elijah Muhammad.[124] After Mecca he visited Africa a second time, returned to the United States in late May,[125] then flew to Africa again in July.[126] During these visits he met officials, gave interviews, and spoke on television and radio in Egypt, Ethiopia, Tanganyika, Nigeria, Ghana, Guinea, Sudan, Senegal, Liberia, Algeria, and Morocco.[127] In Cairo, he attended the second meeting of the Organization of African Unity as a representative of the Organization of Afro-American Unity.”
Is there evidence that she took time off to have a baby from her academic/theatrical/movie career?
“February 21, 1965, as MalcolmX prepared to address the Organization of Afro-American Unity in Manhattan's Audubon Ballroom, “ According to Martha Trowbridge, someone who looked like Valerie was present when Malcolm X was shot and also filmed at his funeral. Was that Valerie (the actress), or the nanny (but Martha said she worked on a newspaper)? Confusion reigns.
What would Malcolm X's motive be to have a baby with a Christian white woman and then turn the baby over to communists when in 1960 he was NIO in good standing?
“Malcolm X later said that seeing Muslims of "all colors, from blue-eyed blonds to black-skinned Africans", interacting as equals led him to see Islam as a means by which racial problems could be overcome.”
How and when could the baby have been transferred from Sarruf’s home turf of England at least since 1962 and out to Hawaii? Wouldn't anyone have noticed a missing baby?
Obama seems to have gone to Indonesia at a very young age, quite when he went there and where he was before seems a mystery.
“If Obama is a year older than he now says, and his own web site originally admitted that fact, then he was likely born in 1960 and conceived in 1959.”
I wouldn't characterize a one-time typo or brain-f*rt by an underling setting up a webpage as either an admission or evidence of anything. Barry's birthdate of August 4, 1961 is found throughout his previous official bio and backed up by the FOIA INS docs as well as all of the previously discussed evidence in support of Stanley Ann as his mom in 1961.
“According to Martha Trowbridge, someone who looked like Valerie was present when Malcolm X was shot and also filmed at his funeral.”
An extremely weak hearsay claim, especially with no photo sufficient to perform computer facial recognition analysis, doesn't rise to the level of evidence of anything, especially five years after the latest conception date. Where was Valerie Sarruf when Malcolm was shot? That might be worth following up as a likely source of debunking evidence for that claim, but the shooting date or any date where Mal and Val were photographed together after 1960 would prove little.
“Malcolm X later said that seeing Muslims of “all colors, from blue-eyed blonds to black-skinned Africans”, interacting as equals led him to see Islam as a means by which racial problems could be overcome.”
But, according to Dr. Polland who put up the Mal-Val morphing video at the top of the thread, Valerie is a Lebanese Christian, NOT Muslim.
“Obama seems to have gone to Indonesia at a very young age, quite when he went there and where he was before seems a mystery.”
Barry is proved to have been on Stanley Ann's passport in 1967, IIRC, by having been struck off it under the names BHO and Soebarkah. There is no evidence that Barry was ever on Valerie Sarruf’s passport or anywhere near her at any time that I have seen. Big difference!
But thanks, again, for your contribution to the thread.