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Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)
Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Meet the New Boss
I said:

"BHO Sr. is shown to have acknowledge himself to be the legal father of Barry, if all of these documents are genuine"

Meet the New Boss said:

"In the space for wife, there is a name scratched out which is consistent with starting with a 'K' and is about the right length for “Kezia Obama.” Next to the scratched-out words is 'Ann S. Dunham, Honolulu, Hawaii.'”

The child, BHO II, born during the BHO-SADO marriage, a marriage explicitly admitted by BHO Sr. on one INS document, is the LEGAL child of the father. Courts have repeatedly ruled "in the interest of the child" that it does not matter whether the father is the biological child of the child. It does not matter whether the father is aware that the child was born. He is the legal father of all children of the marriage.

So long as the HI marriage remained uncontested, for example for bigamy, by admitting in a signed form to the INS that he was married to Stanley Ann at the time of Barry's birth, BHO Sr. was accepting legal paternity of all children born to Stanley Ann during that marriage.

841 posted on 08/14/2012 7:45:29 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Fred Nerks
Morning, Fred. Would you care to address my reply 836?
842 posted on 08/14/2012 8:06:43 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
BTW, just so we don't go down that well beaten path...
I'm confronting you, not stalking you.
843 posted on 08/14/2012 8:13:53 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; Fred Nerks; LucyT; hoosiermama; Fractal Trader; Polarik; melancholy; Red Steel; ...
Per Fred Nerks:

“I started trying to tell the story about the blending of two women to create the myth of the mother in 2009.”

At last Fred Nerks admits to intentionally creating a myth “about the blending of two women.”

Who are those two women? Are they the claimed secret Asian wife of Obama “Anna” supposedly pictured at the Nachmanoff party with BHO Sr. and Stanley Ann?

Per Fred Nerks on August 5, 2009:

“There is no hard evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham ever showed up in Hawaii. None.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=97#97

Is this the first time Fred Nerks made a claim in a declarative sentence attempting to divert FReepers from investigating WHERE Stanley Ann was when Barry was born by the clever device of claiming first she was not in Hawaii at all, while implying that Malcolm X was the father but with Stanley Ann still the mother, but then adding declarative claim that she was not the mother at all and substituting Valerie Sarruf in 2011 when Polarik offered that tasty diversion?

What was happening on Free Republic on August 5, 2009? Wasn't that exactly the time-framd when the two Kenyan BC’s, Bomford and CPGH hit the internet?

Wouldn't a perfect deep-cover Obot trolling opportunity to protect Barry be for doubt to be spread that BHO Sr. could ever have been the legal or biological father of Barry by claiming first that Stanley Ann was never in Hawaii and later that Stanley An was never the mother.

What better way to sow confusion among FReepers attempting to investigate where Barry was born than to go onto nearly every eligibility thread and hijack it into a distracting diversion based on a claim that a distant cousin of a Lebanese woman babysat in Seattle in January 1961...wait for it...NOT Barry but an African-Asian baby fathered by BHO Sr. and a secret Filipino wife maiden named Anna S. Toot...and this baby becomes “the dark boy” (actually Mark Obama Ndesand) who somehow appears in a picture together with “Barry” (actually baby David Obama) who somehow having gotten from Hawaii to Seattle in 1961 with his mother Anna S. Obama then goes to Africa in the company of BHO Sr. and his new wife Ruth to be raised in Kenya and grow up to become Roman Obama!

All very entertaining and, IMO, if it wasn't obvious insidious trolling, it would be completely delusional!

844 posted on 08/14/2012 8:31:30 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

845 posted on 08/14/2012 8:49:22 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks; Polarik; Brown Deer; little jeremiah; David
At its first appearance we saw Obama's Hawaiian birth document to be a forgery.

He's hidden behind twelve million dollars worth of lawyers rather than release anything authentic.

His recent slightly longer forgery is still a forgery.

Another youtube on the process of laser printing shows the ink is fused to the paper by heat, thus the shadows indicate a non-laser process, a forgery.

The photographic record intended to show Barack Hussein Obama the Kenyan as the father, Stanley Ann Dunham as the mother, and Lolo Soetero as the stepfather is a series of forgeries.

The transcripts of the three institutions, Occidental, Columbia, Harvard, are embargoed.

The passport record was accessed by an employee of the imposter's first pick as Director of Central Intelligence, John Brennan.

Sheriff Joe, Donald Trump, Pam Gellar, Ronald Polland, and thousands of people have repeatedly called out the falsification and called for the truth.

Is the 6'2" president the son of the 6'3" Marxist-Muslim he so resembles.

Why has the record of Malcolm Little aka Malcolm X aka El Hajj Malik Al-Shabazz been scrubbed on ostensibly biographical sites and in the FBI FOIA records.

The continually redacted or edited remarks and record concerning the myth calling itself BHO Jr and the activist MX tracked by FBI from 1951 to his murder (after the murderer was visited by a "former FBI agent") suggests the truth must not be known, so say the keepers of the myth.



846 posted on 08/14/2012 12:50:14 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: Seizethecarp
Seizethecarp, we already had this discussion.

See my response to you in post 53:

The doctrine regarding paternity of children born during a marriage to which you refer is legally a presumption, not an admission. These are two different concepts under the law. Marrying a pregnant woman is not technically an admission of paternity.

Here is the current section of the Hawaii Revised Statutes:

§584-4 Presumption of paternity. (a) A man is presumed to be the natural father of a child if:

(1) He and the child's natural mother are or have been married to each other and the child is born during the marriage...;

In subsection (b), the law states that this is a rebuttable presumption.

It's not a big point, but thanks for wasting five minutes of my time pulling up the statute which you easily could have done yourself.

847 posted on 08/14/2012 1:18:00 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Seizethecarp
Firts, it is up to the party making claims to substantiate those claims, such as evidence in the FBI files that supposedly supports the Mal-Val narrative.

THEN STOP WASTING OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME ASKING FOR HELP FINDING INFORMATION THAT YOU NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION OF LOOKING AT.
848 posted on 08/14/2012 1:22:28 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

There have also been homosexuals posing as heterosexuals on here.


849 posted on 08/14/2012 1:34:39 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Seizethecarp
Seizthecarp: "There were at least parties with the means, motive and opportunity to have spirited Ann Dunham to Kenya to hide a potentially scandalous pregnancy from the public and the FBI.

1. Frank Marshall Davis. Under investigation as a communist agitator he may have wanted to avoid publicity and even criminal liability for pictures/paternity involving underage Ann Dunham, perhaps wanting even to hide all this from his KGB handlers.

2. KGB. Had a lot invested in Frank Davis and also in BHO Sr. who was a raving communist speaking at KGB-front union events while in HI and likely being groomed to be a Marxist mole in the anticipated independent Kenya. An alleged marriage and assumed paternity by BHO Sr of FMD's baby would protect both FMD and BHO Sr. from being fingered as father of an illegitimate black baby. Also BHO Sr. would have an anchor baby US citizen to enhance his possible path as a future communist mole in the USA.

3. Elizabeth Mooney Kirk. Financed BHO Srs Hawaii adventure herself. She could have been highly motivated to protect her investment in BHO Sr from being derailed by a youthful sexual indiscretion and would have been in a position to provide a hiding place for Ann Dunham "out of sight" during her pregnancy.
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All very entertaining and, IMO, if it wasn't obvious insidious trolling, it would be completely delusional!


850 posted on 08/14/2012 1:42:41 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks

Your attacks on Fred Nerks [courtesy ping] are so far out in left field, so wrong, so pychotic, so utterly off base that I have to speak up about it. People such as yourself are making Fr a snake pit.


851 posted on 08/14/2012 1:56:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson
Who do I speak to about why my reply #836 was deleted?

I didn't request that it be removed and I don't see how it could be viewed as profane in any manner.

Or I can simply post the information again if that's okay.

852 posted on 08/14/2012 2:05:01 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: PhilDragoo

BTTT.


853 posted on 08/14/2012 2:10:26 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

Is cross posting from another thread the problem?


854 posted on 08/14/2012 2:14:20 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Do not attempt to out other poster’s real life identities.


855 posted on 08/14/2012 2:16:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Do not attempt to out other poster’s real life identities.

I haven't attempted to reveal the identity of anybody.
Even the articles in question are under a pen name.

I revealed what appears to be somebody falsifying their gender.

Isn't doing that wrong?

856 posted on 08/14/2012 2:21:29 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Jim Robinson
Do not attempt to out other poster’s real life identities.

And technically the wife named in the article isn't a poster and there are many people with that same first name.

No surnames ever crossed my keyboard.

I can understand that this might be embarrassing to the poster in question, but what is right behavior and what is wrong behavior?

857 posted on 08/14/2012 2:37:10 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Jim Robinson
Whatever your decision I'll abide by it.

I just want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to argue my case before you without being summarily booted from FR.

858 posted on 08/14/2012 2:40:36 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Knock it OFF!!


859 posted on 08/14/2012 2:40:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Knock it OFF!!

Very well. Understood.

860 posted on 08/14/2012 2:49:27 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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