Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
"BHO Sr. is shown to have acknowledge himself to be the legal father of Barry, if all of these documents are genuine"
Meet the New Boss said:
"In the space for wife, there is a name scratched out which is consistent with starting with a 'K' and is about the right length for “Kezia Obama.” Next to the scratched-out words is 'Ann S. Dunham, Honolulu, Hawaii.'”
The child, BHO II, born during the BHO-SADO marriage, a marriage explicitly admitted by BHO Sr. on one INS document, is the LEGAL child of the father. Courts have repeatedly ruled "in the interest of the child" that it does not matter whether the father is the biological child of the child. It does not matter whether the father is aware that the child was born. He is the legal father of all children of the marriage.
So long as the HI marriage remained uncontested, for example for bigamy, by admitting in a signed form to the INS that he was married to Stanley Ann at the time of Barry's birth, BHO Sr. was accepting legal paternity of all children born to Stanley Ann during that marriage.
“I started trying to tell the story about the blending of two women to create the myth of the mother in 2009.”
At last Fred Nerks admits to intentionally creating a myth “about the blending of two women.”
Who are those two women? Are they the claimed secret Asian wife of Obama “Anna” supposedly pictured at the Nachmanoff party with BHO Sr. and Stanley Ann?
Per Fred Nerks on August 5, 2009:
“There is no hard evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham ever showed up in Hawaii. None.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=97#97
Is this the first time Fred Nerks made a claim in a declarative sentence attempting to divert FReepers from investigating WHERE Stanley Ann was when Barry was born by the clever device of claiming first she was not in Hawaii at all, while implying that Malcolm X was the father but with Stanley Ann still the mother, but then adding declarative claim that she was not the mother at all and substituting Valerie Sarruf in 2011 when Polarik offered that tasty diversion?
What was happening on Free Republic on August 5, 2009? Wasn't that exactly the time-framd when the two Kenyan BC’s, Bomford and CPGH hit the internet?
Wouldn't a perfect deep-cover Obot trolling opportunity to protect Barry be for doubt to be spread that BHO Sr. could ever have been the legal or biological father of Barry by claiming first that Stanley Ann was never in Hawaii and later that Stanley An was never the mother.
What better way to sow confusion among FReepers attempting to investigate where Barry was born than to go onto nearly every eligibility thread and hijack it into a distracting diversion based on a claim that a distant cousin of a Lebanese woman babysat in Seattle in January 1961...wait for it...NOT Barry but an African-Asian baby fathered by BHO Sr. and a secret Filipino wife maiden named Anna S. Toot...and this baby becomes “the dark boy” (actually Mark Obama Ndesand) who somehow appears in a picture together with “Barry” (actually baby David Obama) who somehow having gotten from Hawaii to Seattle in 1961 with his mother Anna S. Obama then goes to Africa in the company of BHO Sr. and his new wife Ruth to be raised in Kenya and grow up to become Roman Obama!
All very entertaining and, IMO, if it wasn't obvious insidious trolling, it would be completely delusional!
At its first appearance we saw Obama's Hawaiian birth document to be a forgery.He's hidden behind twelve million dollars worth of lawyers rather than release anything authentic.
His recent slightly longer forgery is still a forgery.
Another youtube on the process of laser printing shows the ink is fused to the paper by heat, thus the shadows indicate a non-laser process, a forgery.
The photographic record intended to show Barack Hussein Obama the Kenyan as the father, Stanley Ann Dunham as the mother, and Lolo Soetero as the stepfather is a series of forgeries.
The transcripts of the three institutions, Occidental, Columbia, Harvard, are embargoed.
The passport record was accessed by an employee of the imposter's first pick as Director of Central Intelligence, John Brennan.
Sheriff Joe, Donald Trump, Pam Gellar, Ronald Polland, and thousands of people have repeatedly called out the falsification and called for the truth.
Is the 6'2" president the son of the 6'3" Marxist-Muslim he so resembles.
Why has the record of Malcolm Little aka Malcolm X aka El Hajj Malik Al-Shabazz been scrubbed on ostensibly biographical sites and in the FBI FOIA records.
The continually redacted or edited remarks and record concerning the myth calling itself BHO Jr and the activist MX tracked by FBI from 1951 to his murder (after the murderer was visited by a "former FBI agent") suggests the truth must not be known, so say the keepers of the myth.
See my response to you in post 53:
Here is the current section of the Hawaii Revised Statutes:
§584-4 Presumption of paternity. (a) A man is presumed to be the natural father of a child if:
(1) He and the child's natural mother are or have been married to each other and the child is born during the marriage...;
In subsection (b), the law states that this is a rebuttable presumption.
It's not a big point, but thanks for wasting five minutes of my time pulling up the statute which you easily could have done yourself.
There have also been homosexuals posing as heterosexuals on here.
Your attacks on Fred Nerks [courtesy ping] are so far out in left field, so wrong, so pychotic, so utterly off base that I have to speak up about it. People such as yourself are making Fr a snake pit.
I didn't request that it be removed and I don't see how it could be viewed as profane in any manner.
Or I can simply post the information again if that's okay.
BTTT.
Is cross posting from another thread the problem?
Do not attempt to out other poster’s real life identities.
I haven't attempted to reveal the identity of anybody.
Even the articles in question are under a pen name.
I revealed what appears to be somebody falsifying their gender.
Isn't doing that wrong?
And technically the wife named in the article isn't a poster and there are many people with that same first name.
No surnames ever crossed my keyboard.
I can understand that this might be embarrassing to the poster in question, but what is right behavior and what is wrong behavior?
I just want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to argue my case before you without being summarily booted from FR.
Knock it OFF!!
Very well. Understood.
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