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Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)
Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland

The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.

In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.

Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?

Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.

For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!

Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.

For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.

The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?

In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.

Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.


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To: Fred Nerks
SCUMBAG!
How dare you! My bag is full of groceries, not scum.
821 posted on 08/13/2012 11:33:54 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I’ve counted you and your scumbag mates out long ago. And I’m closing down, so howl at the moon. In fact, with people like you on FR, I might just think seriously about pulling the plug out of the wall and take up farming worms.


822 posted on 08/13/2012 11:34:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks
And it's a paper bag, not a plastic one!

I support our paper industry in that manner as I already support our oil industry with buying gasoline and motor oil amongst the multitude of other petroleum based objects I buy.

823 posted on 08/13/2012 11:36:38 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
...I might just think seriously about pulling the plug out of the wall and take up farming worms.
Why not move out to Coober Pedy and mine for opals? You can build yourself a nice house along the way.
824 posted on 08/13/2012 11:41:02 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
I started trying to tell the story about the blending of two women to create the myth of the mother in 2009. Go through my IN FORUM comments.
Done...

@ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=27#27 Thursday, June 25, 2009
And it goes on and on and on...

I don't know which particular reply has the specific "blending of two women" comments so maybe you can save me a little time.
That thread is over 800 replies long so it should be a simple matter for you.
I can go through it if you want, but it may take me a while.

825 posted on 08/13/2012 11:55:36 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
Yep, here's your first tie in to Sarruf that I can find...http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=134#134

What was she again? Some kind of second cousin or some such, wasn't she?

Shall I go on?

826 posted on 08/14/2012 12:02:46 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
Second tie in...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=243#243
Toutonghi mention again
828 posted on 08/14/2012 12:14:43 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=282#282
Toutonghi again.

It's like you're leading the reader down the primrose path to reach an ultimate subconscious conclusion by the occasional interspersing of the Toutonghi info into the thread.

We'll see.

829 posted on 08/14/2012 12:23:45 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=333#333
A repeat. Reinforcing that Toutonghi thought.
830 posted on 08/14/2012 12:34:52 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=473#473
Only one spanner in that wheel...Mary Toutonghi says she babysat a SEVEN MONTH OLD CHILD, not a newborn.
831 posted on 08/14/2012 12:49:22 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
How interesting!
Any SOURCED or documented information is appreciated.

I seem to have missed a lot of stuff before I got hurt.

832 posted on 08/14/2012 1:11:09 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
An inkling?!
@ ...if she was really his mother... December 05, 2010
833 posted on 08/14/2012 1:24:22 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
An itch?!
@ ...the only way the people whom we are expected to believe are the parents could have produced progeny is if artificial insemination was the instrument of pregnancy...
834 posted on 08/14/2012 1:27:36 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
You're a woman?

@http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278969/posts?page=799#799

I missed so much.

835 posted on 08/14/2012 1:35:45 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
Well, that's it for that thread. No scratch for the itch.

It's quite obvious, after viewing that thread, that you're fully capable of providing a link.
So how about you "research" your own replies and show where you @started trying to tell the story about the blending of two women to create the myth of the mother.

Or did I find the right comments from you after all?

837 posted on 08/14/2012 2:12:41 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Fred Nerks
Deja whaaaaaat!?
@There have even been men posing as women on here.
838 posted on 08/14/2012 2:21:03 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brown Deer
@ So are you implying that Fred is posing as a woman?

Perhaps you should read reply #836 and then tell me what conclusion you would draw.

839 posted on 08/14/2012 2:39:41 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Brown Deer; Fred Nerks

If you can’t get any results from the legal avenue, then publishing a book with worldwide newspaper previews and serializations under contract by selected newspapers might do the trick.

Also traveling on a false passport is probably an offence in a lot of countries, shame Nobama may have diplomatic immunity. But does a USURPER of the Presidency have diplomatic immunity?


840 posted on 08/14/2012 7:10:00 AM PDT by ABrit
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