Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The Mal-Val youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named Val into an image of Obama, he insinuates that Val is Obamas mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, Val, in Polariks Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obamas mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as researchers has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obamas mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the researchers had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barrys mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the researchers claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the researchers appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been protecting. They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The researchers claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldnt revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barrys mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the researchers have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obamas mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
I take it that you’ll never be seen on top of a 150’ tower changing out a 16”/300# valve as a cold front with heavy rain moves through.
Too easy! Keep digging.
How are you coping with your unemployment?
And you wouldn't find Anthony Weiner getting his hands dirty doing honest work.
I doubt that your unemployed hands have ever even been dirty and, like Anthony Weiner, you've probably never worked at a real job your whole life.
@... remember, that kind of mental illness results in accomplices becoming victims.
I'm not an accomplice of yours. You three are accomplices.
Which of you is going to become the victim of the others?
I have it on my “ignore” list.
It’s weird when people are caught in lie after lie and they just keep going on as though no one caught them.
There must be a psychiatric definition. Bet there are people in the Vacaville hospital for the criminally insane like that.
It seems I'm the target of a group of sociopaths, subjected to ridicule and scorn, but only in a cowardly, indirect manner.
One of you is going to be the victim of the others, not me.
I don’t know about the safety of the son. Really have no idea; other than to protect the reputation of the father. One point, though, is that megalomaniacs, especially ones who want to wreak vengance on others (he wanted Mau Mau to happen in the US), think everyone else is just as hateful and vengeful as they are. So perhaps (just speculating) he thought “they” would want to kill his son, since obviously “they” were after him.
Hard to read the mind of criminally insane people, especially without the right training in that field.
But not your last comment about me, right?
This is your tagline, little jeremiah...(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
You have no courage as you snipe at me like a coward, just like Brown Deer.
You speak of virtues yet when it comes time to exhibit yours the testing point shows you have no courage or, by extension, any other virtues.
It's not his fault: Mental health month at the Spindletop Center
Isn't it funny how you frame the conversation in one manner and then come back later with what you really meant.
You see, there's also a Spindletop Center for Excellence in Teaching and Technology that's simply called the Spindletop Center as well. That's the one I've been to.
You really need to be less deceptive and more concise so you don't make erroneous conclusions, false assertions or try to create a false impression about someone.
See, my unemployment is related to a physical injury, not a mental illness like with you, Brown Deer.
I'm not crying about lying by omission, I'm pointing out that you lie by omission.
And you've just shown that you do it again!
You said...Maybe you should visit the Spindletop Center.
You didn't say "Maybe you should visit the Spindletop Center MHMR."
So thanks for showing once again that you knowingly and with intent lie by omission for nefarious purposes.
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