Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
If a fraud has been committed and definitive evidence can prove it then a criminal case should be presented.
I see no case being presented so I must conclude there is no evidence and only conjecture.
Bullshit liar.
He seems pretty adamant that Muslim Sisters were approaching him, not Christian women.
And his buddy Elijah Muhammad, according to Marable (malcolm x girlfriend impregnated marable) knocked up the "Evelyn" mentioned in the letter and that caused MX to later leave NOI.
Then why all of the personal questions?
How many times in this thread have you claimed that she was a Christian, with absolutely no evidence to support your theory?
My final reply to you:
ESAD, liar.
I’ll post whatever I want to post. We are in the court of public opinion here and I don’t think you are coming off too well. Too much vinegar.
Thanks for proving my point.
However, that doesn't answer my questions...
What's the point in posting that?
Where does he say he did the horizontal bop with Sarruf in all of that?
We are in the court of public opinion here and I don’t think you are coming off too well.
"Think" what you will. I don't care.
Have you got evidence that she wasn't a Christian?
Pony that thing up then!
Isn't that what's supposed to be happening here?
What purpose is served by posting his birth certificate and mug shot?
I won’t answer that, I’m not allowed to think, remember?
BTW, all the images I posted on recent threads have turned into little red crosses. The image savings account I used has this message:
“This domain is parked, pending renewal, or has expired.
Please contact the domain provider with questions”
pffft! down the rabbit hole.
The two village idiots are say they believe that your claim that Valerie is a Christian, but then disagree with other pieces of your thesis - yet they show absolutely no evidence to support their claims. They only say that you must be right about that part, so since that is the part that you got right, you must be wrong about the rest.
Let me pinch your little chubby cheeks, child.
Where did I say FR was a courtroom?
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