Oh, I'm in Texas. I'm right by the Louisiana border.
Right here...in the Golden Triangle.
I know the slang because I went to Perth and Freemantle while I was in the Navy.
Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
You're not doing that.
Who are they, troll?
You might want to read reply 595 yourself.
Now since so far you have not yet presented any of this evidence that your very dear friend seizethecarp has requested...
I'm not the one he's asking information from. I haven't been the one posting this crap theory for months on end.
...please share your this very new and exciting piece of evidence that you have found about the religion of this "white" Lebanese woman.
@ Alias Barack Obama: A lie is born Ronald Polland (Author)
Or how about this?
Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man
Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982.
That is Polland's video, isn't it? He did make that entry himself, didn't he?
Weak!
Michelle Sarruf, Perkins Coie Seattle lawyer.
You left your humanity at the door when you logged in to FR I think. I was telling the story just as my mother told me, when I was about seven years old. She didn’t read it to me, so already you have assumed you know something you couldn’t possibly know, which is your MO, isn’t it? Skip the details, don’t show any interest, but strike like a snake at the first opportunity. That’s how far off-base you are, because your nature is vicious, and your pleasure is to destroy. Why do you think I bothered to write such a simply story addressed to you? I wanted to see if there was an ounce, a shred of common decency left in you. You probably didn’t notice, how much the story had been changed from the original, which is something that happens when something is transmitted orally, which this was. My mother probably heard if from her mother, who was taught it by her father, who was the school teacher in a little village just outside of Salzburg.
THAT’S IN AUSTRIA.
And that is the reason I don’t use certain forms of speech that are typically Australian, as you so astutely pointed out. Did that make you suspicious? That I don’t address people as mate, or tell them to bugger off, as you suggested? I haven’t heard the expression ‘don’t go crook at me’ for soooooooo long it makes me wonder, just where are you really?
Don’t tell me, there’s nothing more I want to know about you.
I know the slang because I went to Perth and Freemantle while I was in the Navy.
“.......Muslim Brotherhood.......”
Shouldn’t it be Nation of Islam ?
hmmmmm.......
Excuse me, the person to whom the author refers is an arab. The great late civil-rights hero didn’t consider arabs to be white. Richard Wright, who accompanied him to the Bandung Conference and to the Middle East had to correct that. MX insisted there were no white people at the Bandung Conference.
Look up the list of countries that sent representatives, and that will tell you who he considered were whites - all those who didn’t attend, by the look of it.
It’s something I’m sure people like Nasser and Charles Malik from Lebanon overlooked. They knew he was nothing but an ignorant ex felon. Useful, but totally ignorant.
However, in his mind, she was an arab, and just as anti-semitic as he was.
Hey, don't get persnickety with me! I quoted the words of the man you support.
Don't complain to me about his word usage.
I posted a link to a video from the the Dr RJP source, of course I know who the maker of that video is, I’ve been on FR too long NOT to know. I have not read the book. If you have any argument with what he writes about ethnicity, take it up with the author, not with me.
True to form, aren’t you? Attack. Belittle. Destroy. Vicious. Sick. Sick. Sick.
Mind you, he will probably appreciate a little publicity, you might just end up being good advertising.
Maybe you should look harder. Like many people his views changed as he experienced more of the world.
Malcolm X - An Islamic Perspective
Slip of the pen, but similar.
Attack. Belittle. Destroy. Vicious.
You accuse me of this when almost every reply you make to me is little more than exactly that?!
Amazing!
Mind you, he will probably appreciate a little publicity, you might just end up being good advertising.
Isn't that what this is all really about?
His sales are non existent so his "FRiends at FR" (you can read about it in his acknowledgement through the link posted above) stir the pot in the hopes of increased sales?
If that's what is gong on then that's pretty pathetic.
Your very attendance and comments show that you support this theory.
You ridicule anyone who casts any doubt upon it and you continually support it's thesis in doing so.
If you don't support this theory then show just once where you've denounced it!
And don't wimp out on this with some lame excuse like "it's not my job to do it for you" as is your usual habit!
If you can go through the effort of posting almost a dozen replies of mine then surely you can find just one such comment from yourself.
I didn't include 0bama in my search terms - only philman_36 and donkey.
And?
You're just wasting your time, donkey. ;-)
No, I'm wasting yours, moron.
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