Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
I’ll tell what is evident to me, you wouldn’t see them together anywhere even if I showed you a photograph, because in your head is firmly lodged nothing but the myth of an August birth and the motherhood of Stanley Ann Dunham and some coloured man as father - and the only one you can come up with for a father, because you know it’s not the kenyan, is the nearest target, and that’s old Frank Marshall Davis. His only recommendation is that he just happened to be in Hawaii. Which all falls apart when you realise you have nothing to prove that SHE WAS, or that she had a child other than Maya, whom at least we can see her with as a baby.
You’ve already admitted the child may not have been born in Hawaii, so what makes you so sure she was there herself in 1960? No one else saw her, only Neil Abercrombie said he saw the kenyan with a girl, and he wisely sticks to calling her Anne.
Subsequently, when those who have put the hours in, unlike yourself, who has nothing to contribute other than criticism, you totally ignore anything and everything placed before you; you’ve been doing that for as long as I (wish I couldn’t) remember your screen name.
Trust me, every time it occurs to me to carry the conversation further, the same thing happens every time. You show up with your insulting, back-biting, snide comments designed to make you sound oh so d*mn clever, and everyone else an idiot, it always comes back to the same thing.
I’m Seizethecarp and I carry a big stick and if you don’t tell me I’ll beat it out of you...
You know what you are, you FASCIST porcine specimen.
Go ahead on your own, you phony. I’m back to square one. THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS THE TRUTH. All you want is to prove how smart you are. And how stupid everyone else is. You accuse others of not wanting to ‘save your country’ yet you remain the biggest IMPEDIMENT to anyone who is prepared to do the work, spend the time, stick their necks out and take the risks.
How many times have you been told now that the U of WA transcript is fake? But it’s real to you, isn’t it, because it’s there in front of your nose in cyberspace.
You’ve been on my back since I first heard of you, I can’t figure out what set you off, is it because I’m not an American? Have you ever thought that just might be a blessing? I haven’t spent my adult years under the propaganda umbrella of you MSM, we still see things a little differently, we aren’t as programmed as you yourself so evidently are. Your brain is fossilized. It’s set in a solid dark lump and no light enters.
I suggest you contact me when you come up with anything new, and not a repeat of what you wrote yesterday, the day before, the week before, the month before...and nothing but a put-down of what someone else might be trying to say.
Thank goodness we aren’t relying on this method of revealing the results of our research. We wisely decided not to, we anticipated people like you would stand in the way. We predicted that if we put the story on a billboard, someone like Seizethecarp would write grafiti all over it.
And sure enough, you showed up.
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Thank you!
Yet "the theory" is that this devout Islamic racist who, as you say, "didn't believe in any sort of integration" hooked up with a White Lebanese Christian woman and had a child with her.
I don't get it.
And what's with the "if" in your "if he indeed was the father"?
Hasn't undeniable, verified proof already been turned over to...how did you put it again...
Oh, yeah...Why does he believe that he is going to bully people into sharing details that have already been shared with the proper parties?
...the proper parties?
And yet no "proper parties" have gone public with this monumental information. There's only a band of merry men (and women) on the Internet positing/pushing a theory.
Yet your "results" haven't been revealed by the "proper parties" you turned it over to, right?
We predicted that if we put the story on a billboard, someone like Seizethecarp would write grafiti all over it.
Aren't you putting that very story out on a billboard now since the "proper parties", apparently, haven't put this "theory" out to the public?
Isn't this an effort to do what the "proper parties" wouldn't do?
When will "the truth", and not some theory, come out?
Will it come out before the November election?
I find much to recommend a careful reading of the evidence revealed by the score of dedicated researchers over the years they've explored this legend.When I attempt to distill it for some very good minds whose achievements and perceptions I respect, I find the greatest of interest.
Now we are faced with the consequences on a global, as well as a domestic, scale.
In truth all the evidence presented of the conventional propaganda fails.
It is glaringly corrupted and contrived. It is tainted. It points in one direction: away from the truth.
I might add that the current hypothesis looms larger every day.
The charismatic historical figure was in Seattle in 1960 setting up Nation of Islam Temple Number 67. The woman of interest has familial links in the area.
Our future martyr was in the Middle East, including Beirut, in 1959, making new friends.
Our Stanley Ann was a link, but not a breeder.
The child was in Indonesia, and Sukarno was trusted by the martyr-to-be.
What is it that Marable says of the martyr: a life of reinvention.
Behold the president, a life reinvented.
Now his fundamental transformation is a Marxist-Muslim revolution, as befits his indoctrination.
In this election season he pretends to be plain folk concerned for the middle class and counselling religious freedom.
Taqiya, my friends. The Alinsky method.
He is the product of another mother and a different father.
His rewrite team includes Cora Weiss and Bill Ayers, David Maraniss and John Brennan.
Twelve million dollars worth of legal blocking.
All manner of political stonewalling.
Continual editing of personal recollections.
Some heckle and hector, presenting a plausible appearance of obstruction and harrassment.
Invasion of forums to counter conspiracy theory was the prime imperative of Cass Sunstein, Obama's czar of disinformation.
I stand in awe of the patience and diligence of the researchers.
They do true service to the conservative cause, the cause of freedom, the raison d'etre of Free Republic.
Defeating Obama prevents the lights going out in the Western world.
America made a huge mistake in 2008.
The devil hath pow'rs to assume a pleasing shape.
But when he whistles his esses like a fascist faggot it makes my ass tired.
All I can add to Fred's righteous speech is an amen from our friend Jack:
blah blah blah BS.
All you do is prove the point.
My mother told me a story about a man and a boy and a donkey a long long time ago. The man and the boy were walking alongside the donkey through a village. A villager saw them and said, ‘wouldn’t you think one of them would ride the donkey?’ So the man put his son on the donkey. The next village they passed through, a villager saw the man walking beside the donkey and the boy on the donkey, and he said ‘wouldn’t you think the healthy young boy would get off and let his father ride the donkey?’ So the the father changed places with the boy and he rode. The next village they went through, a man saw the father on the donkey and the boy walking, and he said ‘that’s such a stong donkey I can’t see why the man is making the boy walk, that donkey could carry the both of them’. So the father jumped on the donkey behind the boy and just then a dog ran out barking, frightened the donkey and it bolted, and crashed into a bridge railing that broke and they all fell down into the river...where they drowned, and the villagers looked over the side into the swift current of the river, watching as they were swept away and they all agreed, that it was cruel for people to ride donkeys, this would never have happened if they had walked along beside it.
Now go away and leave me alone, you sociopath.
Now go away and leave me alone...
Who are you to dictate anything to me, Fred?
What is Psychological Projection?
Psychological projection is a form of defense mechanism in which someone attributes thoughts, feelings, and ideas which are perceived as undesirable to someone else.
Five years of dancing lessons and I still can’t understand arabic. The presenter is stunning, the author is a funny little man who seems to be saying ‘allah’ an awful lot, and there I was, thinking, gee...I’ve got a link to this book promotion in english text:
http://thetanjara.blogspot.com.au/search?updated-max=2011-10-15T11:25:00%2B01:00
but thanks, LOL! (If you’re wondering why they keep saying Australia, it’s probably because there are a large number of Lebanese in Sydney.)
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