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Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)
Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland

The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.

In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.

Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?

Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.

For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!

Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.

For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.

The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?

In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.

Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.


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To: Greenperson

Might think what?


461 posted on 08/08/2012 5:20:57 PM PDT by ABrit
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To: ABrit

I’ve never seen a photo of this person at the funeral. Do you have a link?


462 posted on 08/08/2012 5:22:08 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fred Nerks

463 posted on 08/08/2012 5:24:16 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: ABrit

That it’s Kafkaesque.


464 posted on 08/08/2012 5:26:27 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fred Nerks

I only discussed the photoshopping actually to be fair and even handed!

I think it’s clear that the Trowbridge “SAD’s photos are all totally shopped and she’s actually Jo Ann Newmann” to be horse feathers.


465 posted on 08/08/2012 5:30:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Greenperson

Perhaps a descendent of Anastasia Romanov, that was her name, I think. Someone was posting something about that.

Just as likely anyway.


466 posted on 08/08/2012 5:32:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: PhilDragoo

BUT BUT BUT ‘THEY’ HAVE changed her hair her nose her eyes her ears her upside her downside and if you look closely, as someone once pointed out to me with a flourish...LOOK! ONE OF HER TOES IS STICKING OUT OF HER SANDAL!


467 posted on 08/08/2012 5:32:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: PhilDragoo

How nefarious. They even photoshopped chubby cheeks on Jo Ann.


468 posted on 08/08/2012 5:33:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

You’re being far to nice, there are people on these threads at times who pee on your head and tell you it’s raining.


469 posted on 08/08/2012 5:37:16 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah

Yes, The One MUST be descended from royalty. Of all types. Indonesian, Russian, the very first slave in the USA, related to, who did someone say? Mary Magdalen. That was it.


470 posted on 08/08/2012 5:39:20 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: little jeremiah

AND MADE HER LOOK FAT!
don’t forget that...


471 posted on 08/08/2012 5:40:11 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I should resist but I can’t. That baby looks no more than a few months old. No way he or she is two.


472 posted on 08/08/2012 5:42:04 PM PDT by Greenperson
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About five or six months...but when was it taken? Just because the event was in February 1962, doesn’t mean we know the date of the image, does it? So it would be a mistake to assume we know more than what we see; a white woman holding a mixed race child about five or six months of age, shown in the April issue of ‘Muhammad Speaks’

And that’s the only thing we can really give Trowbridge credit for. She published that image in her ‘When The Bough Breaks’ episode. That allowed us to trace it to the archives, now no longer available...

Careful study upon enlargement seems to show the same dark band across the forehead of the child...as in several other images of both the young and adult zero.

This episode iirc was one in which she showed the name ERIK RUSH in the heading. He had at the time, just recently published his book ‘Negrophilia’ - and the impression I had was that she had possibly benefitted from his research, as an African-American, the archives of Muhammad Speaks would have been in his interest.


473 posted on 08/08/2012 5:57:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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474 posted on 08/08/2012 6:12:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Anyone who thinks the young man with short hair is SAD is either lying or a silly fool. No third choice.


475 posted on 08/08/2012 6:31:07 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

Such cruelty, to make SAD look fat just because Jo Ann was. Oh wait - is it the other way around? And how do we know SAD really existed?

Hey, this is fun and easy, no wonder they do it.


476 posted on 08/08/2012 6:32:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=264#264

the really ‘smart ones’ nearly always jump in in the middle of a thread - and throwing all caution to the winds, tell you what you really aught to be doing...and how clever they are.

See #291 for example. I need my head examined just for making a reply comment.


477 posted on 08/08/2012 6:39:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah; Greenperson; PhilDragoo; Brown Deer

478 posted on 08/08/2012 6:43:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

The baby on the left in the hat could easily be the middle baby. Be nice to have more photos to look at. And baby in middle resembles child on right for sure, and they are both said to be Zero officially.


479 posted on 08/08/2012 7:37:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

Eh, sometimes one needs to inject a drop of sanity into the big puddle of nonsense.


480 posted on 08/08/2012 7:51:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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