Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Yep. And I’m outa here. It’s sorta like an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of typewriters...of course there are images that have been tampered with, and the ‘family on the couch in Indonesia’ is a good example, you get ‘instant baby’ but the tampering is the result of placing people where they want them to be...because they weren’t there...
I feel about the Trowbridge article quoted as you do; reminds of Lame Cherry but with better grammar. Just a whole lot of way over-cleverness that is so convoluted as to appear purposefully confusing. Maybe with a small (teeny) nugget of something true (or possibly) to lure people.
It was the image on page 18 of Muhammad Speaks that was interesting, and I imagine she got that lead from Erik Rush, probably part of his research for the book Negrophilia
Muhammad Speaks was the publication of NOI which grew considerably in circulation due MX's promotion.
You wrote: “The word “probable” that Rush correctly points to as not supporting a claim of fact referred to the assumption that the first John Bunch was the son of John Punch, the “first slave.” Rush does not question the African blood of the Bunches.
It is a fact that y-DNA testing proves that the Bunch family descendants of John Bunch and the next five male descendants of John Bunch all had in common African chromosome most probably originating from John Punch.
Between Barry and the last male Bunch ancestor, Nathaniel Bunch, are six generations of females who would NOT have African genes exclusive to the y-DNA chromosome, but who, none-the-less, would be descended from all of the male Bunches who did, as would Barry.”
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But, but, but—the KEY to the entire narrative is that Barry has slave ancestry on his mother’s side, but that’s exactly where this unprofessional “assumption” lies, gumming up the works. All those other Bunches were FREE MEN.
You are the one who used the word probable, as in “more probable than not”, iirc, that Stanley Ann is Barry’s son and that both share those African genes.
Without comparing their DNA to these various Bunch families, we don’t even know what their relationship is to each other, much less to the Bunches.
There is NO evidence that John Punch, the so-called first slave, is the father of John BUNCH.
That there were “only” 100 men of African ancestry in that area is undocumented. If you accept that statement, though, these “researchers” then go on to state that of the 100, the only African around with a surname anything LIKE Bunch was John Punch.
From that specious connection, they ASSUME that John Bunch is the son of John Punch.
They ALSO ASSUME that John Punch’s wife was white and that’s how his “son” John Bunch ended up being FREE so that he could, in his early 20s, somehow end up OWNING 450 acres of prime tobacco-growing land. Want to bet this man owned slaves himself?
John Bunch got land grants! Was Virginia in the habit of giving land grants to half-black (maybe even all black) sons of INDENTURED SERVANTS FOR LIFE?!
They also make their assumption about Punch’s wife being white because, otherwise, his white great-grandchildren couldn’t marry whites themselves, which they did. But maybe there’s another explanation—like John Punch wasn’t their great-grandfather.
That’s a lot of assuming to hang their hats on and, as I said, professional genealogists (who aren’t obots) ought to know better. Think about it.
John Punch was an indentured servant FOR LIFE. What’s to say he even MARRIED and had children, much less married a white woman? A white woman who apparently could find no better prospect than a black “slave” for life. Is that likely? Were women a “precious commodity” in those days? Could they take their pick? I’m guessing yes.
What’s to say this John BUNCH didn’t arrive on a ship from England or anywhere else in the world, such as from another part of the New World? Maybe specifically to take advantage of those land grants.
Why would his father HAVE TO BE living in that area? Why would he HAVE TO BE born there? They don’t know when he was born, so they don’t know IF he was born in Virginia or even in the New World. That’s also why they don’t KNOW who his parents were.
It’s silly to assume that the only black man around with a name that sounded like Bunch MUST be his father! An honest researcher would think of all possibilities and not just the one that he or she is hoping to find.
Then there’s the problem that there were multiple John Bunches around and one of them even took that name when it wasn’t his name; he was a mulatto trying to pass himself off as a member of the family, apparently. (Or maybe a white John Bunch impregnated his black mother and he felt the name was his by right.)
Then there’re the many generations (you said six) of women supposedly descended from John Bunch (crucial potential break in the “line” at the Samuel level) who at any point might have had progeny who happened to have been fathered by someone other than a Bunch. It happened.
I have found it in my own family. In baptismal records that nobody else has seen because nobody’s bothered to dig them up in the little rural church where they can still be found. I’m not talking because the people who would be shocked to learn they’re not who they THINK they are, are still living.
Without documentation for EACH generation, such as baptismal records, marriage records, census records, wills, etc., they simply cannot say for certain that these Bunches, of the MANY Bunch families, are Stanley Ann Dunham’s ancestors.
So now we are back to square one, which is how a genealogist is supposed to begin: With the current generation and then backwards, step by step, with DOCUMENTATION for each generational link.
Why, it’s right there on Ancestry’s own website!
There’s NO documentary evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham is the mother of Barry. There’s a lot of bizarre circumstantial evidence that points some other way.
Yes, we have those INS records, which as usual, are oddly cropped; but they also state that the INS questioned whether BHO Sr. and Ann were really married, and they state that she was planning to give THAT child up for adoption. BHO Sr. does not state anywhere that he had a son by Ann Dunham. Not on those INS papers.
So where’s the proof that the adoption didn’t play out exactly that way? She disappeared. Where’s any proof that she really had that child with her when she was at college in Seattle, other than the “testimony” of a woman who was confused about the age of her own child, as if she couldn’t keep the story she was supposed to tell straight?
No documentation. Missing documentation. Destroyed documentation. Sealed documentation. Photoshopped pictures, missing baby pictures. None showing Barry with his mother and father, or even grandmother and grandfather, as a newborn.
There are photos of Maya as an infant, in her mother’s arms, in Madelyn’s arms. Where are the similar photos of Barry? He’s her first born, if you believe it. Would there not be MORE baby photos of him than of his sister? Show me a family where there aren’t 2 or 3 times more photos of the firstborn than of subsequent children.
The FOIA INS documents are uncontested by any competent expert and confirm Stanley Ann to have been reported to the INS to be pregnant in April 1961 by U of HI officials presumably by BHO Sr. U of HI also reported that they married on Feb 2, 1961 and subsequently that she was intending to go to school at a university in WA.
Numerous subsequent newspaper, INS, passport and divorce documents confirm SADO as Barry's uncontested mom.
Absence of evidence (baby photos etc.) is not evidence of absence. The FIOA INS docs are solid, verifiable (can be forensically examined) evidence that Stanly Ann is absolutely Barry's mom.
There are no documents whatsoever that support a different mother for Barry that I have seen. No BC, passport, baby pics for a different mom for Barry, such as Valerie Sarruf available on the web that I have seen.
The only evidence missing is proof of where Stanley Ann was when she gave birth to Barry.
“I read that a long time ago and it is too confusing to grasp. So MT is saying that every single photo of SAD “out there” is photoshopped to make her look completely different, except that one with practically a crew cut that looks like someone else entirely and looks very much like a boy.”
It’s not too difficult. There is not a single realistic image of SAD, and there is not a single unimpeachable document for SAD. No unimpeachable eyewitness recollections.
I’m really disappointed with what’s going on with this “research”. What I see is a debate between complete Obots like Siezethecarp and people who disagree with them, but are also not going anywhere with the “investigation” after a long long time. My fear is that no-one is actually what they appear. This is all smoke and mirrors to mislead the rest of us into thinking “something is being done”.
I’d like to see a whole lot more about who Obama’s parents actually were. Not seeing anything at the moment apart from videos on X and Sarruf morphing into Obama. After over 4 years, that’s not good enough.
The only evidence missing is proof she gave birth to zero ANYWHERE, and in the absence of a genuine, verified, long form birth certificate from Hawaii showing his date of birth, the name of his mother and father, the name of the hospital where he was born, the name of the doctor who delivered him...you don't know where he was born, who his parents were, or when he was born.
And that's the lord-dammit awful truth of it. No matter how often you use words like certified, solid cicumstantial evidence, persuasive, concluded, uncontested, competent, numerous subsequent, verifiable, forensically, absolutely...
...all you got is a myth and a forgery!
1.There is no credible claim that the FOIA INS docs were forged.
2. The HI newspaper birth announcements are in newspaper repositories around the US and there is no credible claim that they were tampered with. They indicate that a birth to Mr. and Mrs. BHO was registered in HI in August 1961 corroborating the FOIA INS docs.
Meanwhile, for the Mal-Val narrative we have bupkis!
Don’t lose any sleep over it, the results of the research of our group, which some would like to see printed here so that our group all become sitting ducks, has been forwarded to where it will do more good than to be attacked here by armchair critics who joined FR years after we had forgotten more than they will ever learn or know.
Lazy people who do nothing but criticize, who have never produced any new information, posted a document or an image; in fact - done nothing but whinge and whine and denigrate...
Would you like some cheese with yours?
You have bupkis because, unlike some people I won’t name, we consider the results of our research to be too valuable and too sensitive to share with you - while the investigation of the leads we have provided is ongoing.
You and your cabal have done enough damage already. Many sources are being removed as a result, fortunately we did take copies.
And you never did answer the question I asked you; were you responsible for the removal of the article on the interview of Virginia Goeldner? You were so incensed each time I quoted it, and suddenly, it disappears.
We don’t trust you, you can demand answers all you like, you can bluster and threaten, and use BIG words and try to belittle, but nothing will ever persuade me to confide in you.
Bupkis to you from us.
1958 — while Stanley Ann works as an au pair in Chicago, CIA/MI6 agents Stanley Armour and Madelyn Payne Dunham are in Lebanon. They attend a meeting of the free-love cult Aetherius Society with Valerie Sarruuf, Malcolm X and others.
1959 — Bari Shabazz is born in Connecticut.
1960 - Stanley Ann Dunham impregnated by Frank Marshall Davis.
1961 - Anna Toughounti impregnated by Barak Obama Sr.
1961 - Barry Davis born in British Columbia.
1962 - Roman Obama born in Kenya.
1959-1966(?) - Communist Party members LeForge run a red-diaper nursery on Kalaianole Ave in Hawaii. Barry, Roman, and Bari all play together, and the parents stop by and grab one at random to raise in their preferred identity for the time being.
So your answer is “trust me, the cheques in the post”? And please don’t think I can be kept quiet by a little light abuse.
Jo Ann Newman (or Valerie Newman/Sarruf) wrote a tribute to Malcolm X, on 20 March 1965 in New York’s Amsterdam News,even though she wasn’t on the editorial staff.
A remembrance: Fred Newman, 1935-2011 from New York Amsterdam News
Was Fred Newman (Communist subversive) Valerie Newman Sarruf’s dad? Did he get her the job on the paper? Did she write the obituary for her lover Malcolm X?
The video of X is 2 hours, 10 minutes and 19 seconds.
Thanks. In the first minute, he rants about a Chinese guy not using the names Murphy, Bunch and Johnson. I can see someone randomly throwing out Murphy and Johnson but not Bunch. But then Johnson and Bunch together is getting even slimmer. The Won is such a loser that he’ll make up any relationships he can. Real and fantasy are the same so who knows the truth.
Forgive me for jumping in here, I promise not to do it again...but I thought you might like to see this, you remember I’m sure that Martha also wrote she had found the Jo Ann Newman/Sarruf MX offspring in New York, living just around the corner from the Shabazz family...?
http://209.157.64.201/focus/news/2854528/posts?page=72#72
To: hamboy; Mortrey
Looks like Orly Taitz dug up the social security applications for “Bari M. Shabazz”, and found out his original name was Barrington H. Smith, an immigrant from Kingston Jamaica. Shabazz, due to its association with Malcom X, has got to be the most commonly adopted name for Nation of Islam converts.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Bari-Shabazz-Kingston-Jamaica.pdf
72 posted on Monday, 5 March 2012 7:46:04 PM by Boogieman
Don’t thank me, one good turn deserves another.
Well, when you lay it all out like that, one thing becomes very clear! Just look at the documentary evidence in support of these claims! Oh, wait...
Didn’t Malcolm X have West Indian roots?
The cards are interesting. Was Bari Shabazz born to Val on 28th October 1959 in the West Indies? Just about the right date for Obama’s real age.
Got first New York card in 1972, changed his name back to his birth name April 9th 1980. How likely is it that another 21 year old person of West Indian origin changed his name age 21 to Bari M Shabazz? How many others were there if that was really common?
Hawaii: Bari Shabazz with New York driving license (spooky that) has his charge quashed by prosecutor years later:
From Mario Puzo
Ms. Trowbridge has found that the Social Security Death Index shows: “SHABAZZ, B M 28 Oct 1959 Aug 1994 (V) 34 (PE) (none specified) New York 084-54-5926.” From this, one would think that Bâri died in August 1994. But no, Ms. Trowbridge informs that only his identity was made “dead.” The real person continued to live and that person became “Barack Hussein Obama II.” Note how she explains that the “death” of Bâri was only reported by someone (“V” or “Verified”) and that the person did not present any valid death certificate (“P” or “Proof).
What’s more Ms. Trowbridge explains that “[o]nce in the federal system, the [death] record was flagged as ‘PE’, meaning that an inconsistency exists between what was reported and what was recorded in the government’s files.”
Finally, and the most shocking part of her report is that Ms. Trowbridge contends that Bâri M. Shabazz is the biological son of Malcolm X. Hence, if Barack Hussein Obama II is the same person as Bâri M. Shabazz, that would make putative President Obama the biological son of Malcolm X.
On November 4, 2011, an anonymous source emailed me something very interesting. To substantiate the content of the email, the writer directed me to go to a web site of the Judiciary for the State of Hawaii and to do a search of cases that have been disposed of by that State’s traffic courts. The anonymous source had done just that and so the person provided me with the information which that traffic court shows on its web site.
I did go to the Hawaii traffic court’s web site which is called eCourt Kokua and I was eventually able to confirm the information that the anonymous source sent me. Access to the court’s web site may be gained by going to
jimspss1.courts.state.hi.us:8080/eCourt/ECC/ECCDisclaimer.iface;jsessionid=FDFF513AA90109AC4375A7CBE7C8AF36.
Once at the site, click “Agree” to the terms and conditions. Then click, “Search for case details by case ID or citation number.” Once there, enter at the prompt, Case ID or Citation Number(*): 1193041MO and hit Search.” The following report appears:
What do these reports say and what questions does they raise? The Case ID is 1193041 MO. The name of the case is State v. Bari Shabazz which was a non-jury case. The case is characterized as a “Traffic Crime,” with a “REPORT number W50100.” The offense occurred on March 12, 1982. The charging police officer is Duane Masayuki Espinueva. The event is characterized as an “Accident Major.” The charge was driving without a valid driver’s license. The case was first filed on Tuesday, March 16, 1982, in the First Circuit, located at Kane’Ohe Division. I checked and this court is located at
45-939 Pookela Street, Kaneohe, HI 96744
. The case was continued to April 5, 1982.
The record also shows that Bari Shabazz was supposed to be arraigned and enter a plea on April 5, 1982, at 8:30 a.m., in Kane’ohe Traffic Court, Courtroom B, at the Kane’ohe Division. The case was continued to May 5, 1982.
On May 5, 1982, at 8:00 a.m., Bari Shabazz was supposed to again be arraigned and enter his plea in the same court room. He apparently did not appear and so the court issued a bench warrant on May 5, 1982, bearing number “BWO 050582.” It appears as though the court set bail at $25.00. The record also shows the entry of “HONDA,” maybe meaning that Bari Shabazz was driving a Honda or that the prosecutor’s name was “HONDA.” The next entry is for May 5, 1982, at 8:30 a.m. The court ordered the “AP” (maybe meaning accused person) to show proof of “NEW YORK DRIVER’S LICENSE.”
The report then shows that the prosecutor on April 9, 2003, filed an ex parte motion to recall the bench warrant and announced on the record “nolle prosequi.” This is a Latin phrase which is formally entered into a court record which means that the prosecutor in a criminal case “will no further prosecute” the case. The motion was listed as “NP [nolle prosequi] 040903.” So, the charge was dismissed upon the prosecutor’s ex parte “Nolle Prosequi” motion made on April 9, 2003. “Ex parte” means that only one side made the application which in this case was the prosecutor.
The final entry was for October 30, 2005, at 8:00 a.m., when the court noted that a $-0- balance was owed, but said “Pls check.”
This information raises the following questions:
1. Is the Bari Shabazz named in this traffic court report the same person Ms. Trowbridge calls “Bâri M. Shabazz” in her report and who is listed as “B M Shabazz” in the Social Security Death Index? If it is the same person, then that puts New Yorker Bâri M. Shabazz in Honolulu County, Hawaii, on March 12, 1982. Using a date of birth of October 28, 1959, this would have made Bâri M. Shabazz 22 years old at the time that he had this major automobile accident in Honolulu County.
2. The accident is characterized as a major accident. Chances are that Bari Shabazz and/or any passenger was taken to a local hospital in Honolulu County due to his/their injuries. If Bari Shabazz suffered any major injuries or laceration, the physical signs of those injuries and/or lacerations could still be present somewhere on his body if he is still alive.
3. Bari Shabazz was charged with driving without a driver’s license. The court ordered him to show proof of his New York driver’s license. Hence, Bari Shabazz must have told the charging police officer or the court that he did have a driver’s license and that it was one issued by the State of New York. Hence, Bari Shabazz must have been a resident of the State of New York. Note that Ms. Trowbridge said that Bâri M. Shabazz was born in New York City. Also, what was Bari Shabazz doing driving in Hawaii with what should have been a New York driver’s license? Was he now living in Hawaii? Was he there on vacation? Was he there visiting family or friends? Was he going to school there?
4. On April 9, 2003, the prosecutor filed a motion to recall the bench warrant, to terminate prosecution, and close the case. Why would this case come to the attention of some local prosecutor 21 years following the initial violation of March 12, 1982? A local prosecutor does not just go looking for cases that are 21 years old and file motions to dismiss those cases. Someone must have asked that local prosecutor to dismiss the case so that the arrest warrant was cleared from the court’s and nation’s computer system.
5. Ms. Trowbridge shows that Bâri M. Shabazz, according to the Social Security Death Index, died in August 1994. If Bâri M. Shabazz is the same person as is listed in this Hawaii auto accident as Bari Shabazz, why would someone care to recall his arrest warrant on April 9, 2003 or almost 9 years after his death? Surely, it could not be Bari M. Shabazz who was interested since he had been dead since 1994. On the other hand, if he was not dead he would be interested.
6. On October 30, 2005, or 23 years following the date of the accident of March 12, 1982, the court again re-visits the case of Bari Shabazz, noting that he did not owe the court any money but to “Pls. check.” Why would the court again concern itself with this case on that date, especially if Bari Shabazz was dead since 1994?
7. So, is the Bari Shabazz named in this Hawaii traffic court report the same person Ms. Trowbridge calls “Bâri M. Shabazz” in her report and who is listed as “B M Shabazz” in the Social Security Death Index? That question surely merits an investigation. If he is, then that puts the New-York-born Bâri M. Shabazz in Honolulu County, Hawaii, the alleged birth place and once place of residence of putative President, Barack Hussein Obama II. Given what Ms. Trowbridge has concluded in her report, that is a circumstantial piece of evidence that is surely worth investigating. What also supports Ms. Trowbridge’s position that Bâri M. Shabazz really did not die in August 1994 and that he is still alive as Barack Hussein Obama II is that the traffic court in Hawaii was still acting on the Bari Shabazz traffic case 9 and 11 years after the alleged death in August 1994 of Bâri M. Shabazz. What needs to be investigated is why the local prosecutor and court took those actions so many years after the traffic accident and at whose behest.
8. Finally, when there is an auto accident, the police do a detailed accident report. That report includes the name, addresses, date of birth, and social security number of the person involved in the accident who is charged for that accident. The driver’s license number is also included if that license is produced or otherwise verified. A physical description of the defendant is also included. The make of auto, including the year made and VIN number are also included, along with statements of witnesses. There could be a photograph of the defendant in the police record. A thorough investigation of this matter would surely include searching the police record in Honolulu County for this report so that this information may be examined and evaluated.
http://puzo1.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/is-putative-president-barack-hussein.html
I have never removed anything from the internet that wasn't mine! In fact I was the one who found and fought to preserve the dual-date Kenyan calendar date format on the Wiki page which debunked a claim that the CPGH BC must have been forged because it had the wrong date formats next to the signatures.
My expertise is as a former CPA and Certified Fraud Examiner, not as a technical geek capable of removing stuff from the web.
Incensed? That story was not in the least bit credible and was refuted by other stories and interviews given by the very old Virginia who was very remote from her half-brother's family. She was 20 years younger than her brother Stanley Armour.
See:
“The President’s Family: Meet Virginia and Cecil Goeldner”
“One of the last remaining relatives in the President immediate family circle on his mother's side, Virginia is the half-sister to Stanley, President Obama grandfather, who helped to raise him.
“Background information on the family is offered. Stanley and Virginia had different mothers, were born 20 years apart, had two other siblings and were raised in Kansas, the place where Virginia met her husband, the only child of Cecil and Hazel Goeldner, a farm family.”
“Cecil didn't realize that his wife actually made money with her work until he came home one day to find she had purchased tickets to Hawaii. They were all going to visit her brother Stanley, his wife, Madelyn, Maya, and Barack.
“When they arrived, everyone was there, except for Barack, who was away in school at Columbia. Throughout the years, Stanley and Virginia kept in touch via letters and telephone calls. He would write to her of Barack and Maya, often stating how proud he was of them both. In turn, she would write to him about her children.”
“They also participated in a private family inauguration party, had a reunion with her brother Ralph Dunham, and enjoyed a tour of the Capitol building with her great nephew Ian Dunham.
“Virginia recalls how it felt watching her great nephew step out of his limousine during the Inaugural parade.”
Oh, and if his birth surname was Hutton-Smith, then that would be too long to fit under the blacked out bit for fathers name.
Maybe Val checked into the Maternity Ward as Hutton, and Malcolm X as Smith. Offspring became Hutton-Smith? In UK you don’t have to prove your ID as birth parent. Case closed.
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