Re:"Mal and Val - not Ann and the Old Man" Any evidence Valerie Sarruf is Obama's mom? (vanity)

Seizethecarp vanity commentary on Dr. Ron J. Polland youtube dated 08/07/11 ^ | August 1, 2012 | Seizethecarp (vanity)

[ABrit]

Except Trowbridge said Mom was related to Fred Newton Communist leader?

[ABrit]

Except Trowbridge said Mom was related to Fred Newton Communist leader?

[ABrit]

Is it Sarruf nee Newman? Thus meeting X’s inter religious inter racial criteria?

[ABrit]

Yes. Valerie Newman, relative of (daughter of?) Communist mastermind Newman, had child by X, then married Sarruf, became Valerie Sarruf actress in London. Got work cos her father in law was famous actor Alexander D’Arcy (Sarruf).

Bamma must have been looked after by FMD. Got baby pic with Obama seniors son also in HI. Got shipped to Indonesia later.

[ABrit]

Yes. Valerie Newman, relative of (daughter of?) Communist mastermind Newman, had child by X, then married Sarruf, became Valerie Sarruf actress in London. Got work cos her father in law was famous actor Alexander D’Arcy (Sarruf).

Bamma must have been looked after by FMD. Got baby pic with Obama seniors son also in HI. Got shipped to Indonesia later.

[Brown Deer]

Obama, RUI: Running Under The Influence Of “Uncle Fred”

[little jeremiah]

Joanne Newman was, I thought, a name Trowbridge was using to hide the ID of the mother.

This would conveniently make Zero a NBC.

What is the veracity of Trowbridge’s idea? Zero could easily have been influenced (and no doubt was) by Fred Newman’s toxic ideas whether related or not.

[Brown Deer]

[ABrit]

Or is “Tutonge” the link? Were they blood relatives of Sarruf?

Also, entry to school is an important time. Was Obama shipped to Indonesia when they had to decide how to school him?

That would also tie in with time X’s life was in danger and ended.

Do you think they know Obama is NBC, just don’t want the rest to be known?

Or did he really renounce citizenship?

[little jeremiah]

If his mother was a foreigner, not a NBC; if born overseas with a foregner mother, for sure not a NBC. I don’t get this Joanne Newman” stuff.

[little jeremiah]

Striking familial resemblance.

[Brown Deer]

By my calculations, nine months of gestation before a claimed birth on Aug. 4, 1961 would be Nov. 4, 1960 and then a supposedly knowledgeable FReeper says add another week and push back conception to October 28, 1960, which would be even before Halloween. This would have made her already pregnant by Christmas when the nudie pics were supposedly taken.

but if he was born on 04/08/61, then by your calculations, conception would now instead be during the summer of 1960, when Stanley Ann was working as an au pair in Chicago.

[Brown Deer]

[Seizethecarp]

“but if he was born on 04/08/61, then by your calculations, conception would now instead be during the summer of 1960, when Stanley Ann was working as an au pair in Chicago.”

Um...No! I did not calculate a one-year gestation! My calculation is explicit (please re-read it) and the conception date I calculated was October 28, 1960.

As to the “au pair episode,” that is from the wildly unreliable “Dreams” narrative that was mostly written by Bill Ayers. In the “Dreams” narrative, Stanley Ann is supposedly in Chicago in the summer of 1959 before her senior year at Mercer, IIRC.

I find it curious that some proponents of the Mal-Val narrative denounce “Dreams” but persist in using “Dreams” when it can be woven into the Mal-Val narrative (sort of, but not really).

[Brown Deer]

Um...No! I did not calculate a one-year gestation! My calculation is explicit (please re-read it) and the conception date I calculated was October 28, 1960.

Are you having trouble reading sport? Try again...

if he was born on 04/08/61

As to the “au pair episode,” that is from the wildly unreliable “Dreams” narrative that was mostly written by Bill Ayers. In the “Dreams” narrative, Stanley Ann is supposedly in Chicago in the summer of 1959 before her senior year at Mercer, IIRC.

Try again. While in Chicago, Stanley Ann went to see the "Black Orpheus", which was not released until December of 1959. So, she was in Chicago during the summer of 1960.

I had a feeling that you were going to respond with nonsense such as that.

[little jeremiah]

IOW, it wasn’t just happenstance that brought young Zero to Indonesia.

[Brown Deer]

On February 21, 1965, a man yelled, "Nigger! Get your hand outta my pocket!"

As Malcolm X aka Malcolm Little aka El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz and his bodyguards moved to quiet the disturbance, a man seated in the front row rushed forward and shot him once in the chest with a double-barreled sawed-off shotgun. Two other men charged the stage and fired semi-automatic handguns, hitting Malcolm X several times.

The three gunmen who were later convicted to 20 years to life sentences were all black Muslims and members of the Nation of Islam led by Shabazz's mentor Elijah Muhammad (1934-1975) aka Elijah Robert Poole and now led by Louis Farrakhan aka Louis Eugene Wolcott aka Louis X aka Louis Farrakhan Muhammad.

[Seizethecarp]

“While in Chicago, Stanley Ann went to see the “Black Orpheus”, which was not released until December of 1959. So, she was in Chicago during the summer of 1960.”

Do you have a source other than “Dreams” for these claims?

If not, you are relying on the totally unreliable “Dreams” narrative...which has Stanley Ann as Barry’s mom giving birth in HI on Aug. 4, 1961...nine months plus one week after October 28, 1960...(my calculation which appears to be correct).

[Brown Deer]

Do you have a source for 1959? I believe that an entire paragraph describing an excursion to the movie as more reliable than a mistake of two digits. But of course, you are the one who thinks his bio saying he was born in Kenya was a completely honest mistake. You just seem to pick and choose whatever fits your fantasy, don’t you?

still waiting for your calculation for a birthdate of 04/08/61... (premies of more than one month usually didn’t make it back then)

[Brown Deer]

I find it curious that some proponents of the Mal-Val narrative denounce “Dreams” but persist in using “Dreams” when it can be woven into the Mal-Val narrative...

Really? Who would those be?