Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Should have added:
And what is the most important part of the myth, at this point?
That he is who he says he is. Son of blah blah born in blah blah, not a Muslim, not a commie, not a faggot.
A picture is worth a thousand words, especially when the thousand words are really 10,000 words of blathering verbiage.
This has got to be art imitating life!
Ummm...I think someone photo-shopped a picture of Barry to make him look like a woman...again...!
Have you come up with any evidence that Valerie Sarruf is the mother of Barry...the supposed topic that drew you to this thread for some reason?
Where could she and Malcolm X have been together in 1960, the most likely time of the conception. Is there any evidence?
Is there evidence that she took time off to have a baby from her academic/theatrical/movie career?
What would Malcolm X's motive be to have a baby with a Christian white woman and then turn the baby over to communists when in 1960 he was NIO in good standing?
How and when could the baby have been transferred from Sarruf’s home turf of England at least since 1962 and out to Hawaii? Wouldn't anyone have noticed a missing baby?
“You’re the one looking for the evidence, not me.”
Me: looking for evidence as the thread title invites
You: trolling!
I can only assume he wants to find out what other people know, or what he thinks or fears they may know.
And such an adversarial tone! Hasn’t he heard about catching more flies with honey than vinegar. Or more honeybees, nicer analogy.
“Do you have evidence that she was working then? Maybe you can share it with us.”
Sometime likely in late in 1961 or early to mid 1962 she she may have acted in her earliest two BBC TV episodes in the UK. This is my estimate based on the usual delay between shooting shows and the shows being broadcast. It is a guess. There may be much more accurate information in the BBC archive as to when her scenes were shot...perhaps as early as August 1961. Sometimes the whole season is shot before the season starts.
Here is a link to her filmography and the two shows:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0765586/filmogenre
BBC Sunday-Night Play: Season 3, Episode 43
Sword of Vengeance (29 Jul. 1962)
The Avengers: Season 2, Episode 13
Death Dispatch (22 Dec. 1962)
I haven’t found what she was doing before that and where.
However, if nothing is released then there's going to be a whole lot of 'splainin to do.
Martin, son of John, brother of Joseph married to the famous baby-sitter who went to school with the children of Bob Hope...in Hollywood. That Martin?
hmmm
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