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BREAKTHROUGH POWER TEST A SUCCESS, BUT A.P. SITS ON IT
The American Reporter ^ | October 30 2011 | Joe Shea

Posted on 10/30/2011 2:42:16 PM PDT by Kevmo

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To: count-your-change

because... maybe you have a reading comprehension problem.


101 posted on 10/30/2011 6:44:08 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: dinodino

Please cite your source for the 14,700 replications of cold fusion you mentioned twice in recent posts.
***I have done so, multiple times, on LENR threads. So you go fetch.


102 posted on 10/30/2011 6:45:20 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: dinodino

Also, you never explained whose posts you wanted removed.
***If you understood what I wrote you would not be writing that sentence. I have explained it, and you have not understood it even though it was very simple. My conclusion is, yes, you have a reading comprehension problem.


103 posted on 10/30/2011 6:47:25 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

A simple question. Do you know or not. If you don’t care to say then why take the time to make silly comments about reading comprehension?


104 posted on 10/30/2011 6:50:50 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
The whole "steam quality" issue is a gigantic red herring. There WAS no "steam quality issue". The instrumentation used to determine steam quality was quite capable of doing so, and the critics that are saying it isn't are simply wrong. And then there was the "no-steam" experiment, which should have settled the issue......for some reason, THAT experiment is simply ignored.

I'll look for the no steam experiment data - And your viewpoint of subtracting W(e) from W(t) as if the two were in any fashion equal?

105 posted on 10/30/2011 6:59:15 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Kevmo
I have nothing more to say to you about LENR. You are not worth the keystrokes and removed posts.

Abide by FR rules and your posts won't get pulled. I told you I didn't have a problem with your insults. Now what's the source for the 14,700 number?

106 posted on 10/30/2011 7:00:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: count-your-change

Kevmo probably has no idea. I know where the figure came from, and it’s incorrect.

I bet if Rossi could see how Kevmo defends him, Rossi would probably tell him to shut the hell up.


107 posted on 10/30/2011 7:00:25 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: CodeToad

You just described Rossi and yourself. No facts, just name calling and diversions.
*** I posted the thread where we’re trying to prove or disprove this is a fraud. The record shows that none of the naysayers who have been hovering around these threads have contributed even to the filling in of one field of the knowledge matrix.

You just keep posting about your boy Rossi,
***I keep posting about LENR

the felon with a history of
***felon, yes. The guy has obvious issues.

fraud
***Tax Fraud. The same guvmint that accepted his fuel tax payments — so that means he was generating fuel, doesn’t it?

and how this is not fraud this time. Yeah, right.
***I’m saying look at the evidence. Look at what others besides Rossi have to say. If they are all in on a giant conspiracy then your position becomes far less believable.

Even his patent was rejected for not being of a sound scientific and logical basis.
***His patent is still pending.

We contributed plenty as to how this is a scam.
***Not on that thread where it was asked. Look at just this one post, where what you are contributing turns out not to be factual. If what you have contributed is not factual, what value is it?

Unfortunately for you, you lack even a basic scientific knowledge, even of the junior high school kind.
***And yet, there are guys with advanced science degrees who are angry at me for pointing out, time and again, their usage of classical logical fallacies? Something doesn’t add up. It is this conclusion you have arrived at. I know what level of scientific training I have, so it’s easy for me to see how far wrong you are. There are plenty of other things that do not add up as well.

You lack business knowledge to understand product development and how he is violating every sound principle of business
***I have questioned his business tactics in the past. But others have shown me that his crazy-like-a-fox approach is actually strategically sound.

but follows the very pattern of a scam.
***Then follow the pattern to its conclusion. If he’s a scam artist, how is it that he got so many other scientists to say that he’s onto something? Are they REAL STUPID, or are they part of the ever-growing conspiracy? How did he get a customer to buy this thing? They’re REAL Stupid or they are also part of this widening conspiracy house-of-cards. My prediction: You will not answer this contention.

Your gullibility has lead you to be hostile to such reasoning and experience.
***No, it is my critical thinking skills that have lead me to such hostility because there are so many FReepers who claim advanced degrees who exhibit so many logical fallacies.

Instead, you are just cock sure
***No, but I’m convinced enough to try to get naysayers such as yourself to put their money where their mouth is. No one has done so, but they managed to get the thread pulled. Why is it that your colleagues are such big whiners?

this is not a scam even though you have not one single solitary fact yo back you up.
***I’ll match facts with you if you’re willing to put up something worth pursuing, like money on the table.

Well, you are exactly the type of feeble minded person he neeeds to make money; someone with an emotion desire but without any non-emotional reasoning.
***It is your emotional reasoning which does not allow you to think inductively, to look past the red flags of Rossi’s previous issues to see the ‘forensic’ evidence he has generated.

Someone that he could give any excuse to and get his way.
***I will take your excuses too, if you put money on the table. But you won’t. Because what you say does not line up with what you do.


108 posted on 10/30/2011 7:02:28 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo; dinodino

I’ll help you out. The 14,700 apparently comes from someone at the Chinese Academy of Science and has passed into “everyone knows” lore.

If you have said that in a post please show us, Really!


109 posted on 10/30/2011 7:02:55 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

What are you going on about?

I gave you a simple answer.


110 posted on 10/30/2011 7:03:48 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Moonman62

Abide by FR rules and your posts won’t get pulled.
***Then the personal attacks by the others will get pulled as well. Good.

I have nothing to post to you about LENR because you ain’t worth the pulled posts.

Thanks for bumping the thread.


111 posted on 10/30/2011 7:06:09 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: dinodino

I know where the figure came from, and it’s incorrect.
***Feel free to refute it. But... I know you won’t.


112 posted on 10/30/2011 7:09:08 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo
I’ll help you out. The 14,700 apparently comes from someone at the Chinese Academy of Science and has passed into “everyone knows” lore.

Is that true? No wonder you don't want to name your source.

113 posted on 10/30/2011 7:10:25 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: dinodino

How could Dr. He of Chinese Academy of Science fame be wrong?

“I bet if Rossi could see how Kevmo defends him, Rossi would probably tell him to shut the hell up.”

I think I’m having too much fun.


114 posted on 10/30/2011 7:11:18 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Moonman62

I have nothing further to post to you on LENR... you know the rest.


115 posted on 10/30/2011 7:13:12 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: count-your-change

How could Dr. He of Chinese Academy of Science fame be wrong?

*** As I have posted upthread, feel free to refute it. In the meantime why don’t you go and whine to the mods and say that Kevmo was being mean an’ using the word ‘seagull’. No doubt your feelings were hurt.


116 posted on 10/30/2011 7:18:25 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: count-your-change

I know, isn’t that a great source? Small wonder Kevmo didn’t want to admit the citation.

Kevmo probably read it while studying with Rossi at Kensington University...


117 posted on 10/30/2011 7:20:24 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Wonder Warthog
And then there was the "no-steam" experiment, which should have settled the issue......for some reason, THAT experiment is simply ignored.

I hope you can point me in the right direction, as the only data I can find on a no-steam test was the 18 hour test, where an average of 80w(e) was inputted, with a minimum of 20w, and 15kW(t) was measured as output. Since the energy inputted is 14.4kW(e), and 15kW(t) output, you're within a statistical margin of error of the waste energy from an incandescent light bulb (2% efficiency.)

If there's more solid methodology and detailed power input/output information, that would be of great help here.

118 posted on 10/30/2011 7:33:47 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: dinodino
That figure is quoted but never any way of establishing it as fact. There is a site with lots of downloads on the LENR process at www.lenar-canr.org (I think that is the right site) and a poster repeats the 14,700 figure.

Kinda hard to track down but that won't keep it from being regurgitated at every opportunity.

119 posted on 10/30/2011 7:44:46 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: dinodino

Kensington U. may be the mysterious customer. Shouldn’t take much to heat a diploma mill.


120 posted on 10/30/2011 7:58:56 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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