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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma

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To: muawiyah

Look at the capital ‘A’s on line 8 where the father’s name is. He found two ‘A’s with different typefaces in the first name BARACK.


361 posted on 06/08/2011 3:33:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: muawiyah

So do you believe that a manual or electric typewriter was used at the hospital?


362 posted on 06/08/2011 3:34:44 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
The birth certificate of Susan Elizabeth Nordyke clearly shows that the capital letter E is reported in THREE DIFFERENT DENSITIES, twice in her middle name in fact.

I only have to point to ONE item to disprove the general contention that the Nordyke birth certificates show none of the characteristics of the Obama birth certificate.

See: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/04/critics-obamas-latest-long-form-birth-certificate-is-a-fake/

363 posted on 06/08/2011 3:35:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brown Deer
I can't say that there was no electric typewriter in the hospital or the Board of Health, but it sure does look like they had old manual typewriters.

Do you imagine that just before the Territorial Government shut down the US government gave them beaucoup dollars to buy all new stuff?

This is when Eisenhower was President so be careful how you answer ..... (clock is ticking) ......... or, do you imagine the Territorial government left them the old stuff!

364 posted on 06/08/2011 3:40:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I only have to point to ONE item to disprove the general contention that the Nordyke birth certificates show none of the characteristics of the Obama birth certificate.

Stick to the subject! This is about different fonts, not different densities.

You have disproven absolutely nothing.
365 posted on 06/08/2011 3:43:29 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: muawiyah
...it sure does look like they had old manual typewriters.

Good, so please explain the kerning.
366 posted on 06/08/2011 3:44:42 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer
Stick to the evidence ~ he didn't provide pictures of different fonts but of different impressions made with the same key on a typewriter.

That's all that is.

It shows up on the Nordyke birth certificates as well. Same letter E hit three different times leaves a different impression and a different density.

You can call it whatever you want but the same identical typefaces are found both Obama and Nordyke documents of that period.

367 posted on 06/08/2011 3:46:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Jim Robinson

Got it.


368 posted on 06/08/2011 3:47:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TigersEye
The afterbirthers are incapable of seeing anything or looking at anything. Their heads are stuck too far up Obama’s rear to see or hear anything.
369 posted on 06/08/2011 3:51:52 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Brown Deer
That's an artifact created by picchur takin' done by a photocopy machine with a single fixed lens system.

It could have happened as early as over 30 years ago when these people probably installed a brand new Xerox microfiche system.

They have been fairly cagey about what they use as a record these days ~ is it a microfiche image or is it a piece of paper. I suspect they imbed the existing microfiche image into the body of a new digital document to create the output document they pass around as the Long Form Birth Certificate.

Here's another thought for you ~ over the very long period of time since the document was created (1961 to present) the paper/cardboard/cardstock whatever you want to call it has been subject to humidity and heat, and then dried out, and pulled, bent, folded, and stuck back in.

What do you imagine all that stress on the printed page does to the finer details of lines and curves in the letters on the page?

One of the more intriguing Bible recovery operations is taking place at an ancient abandoned toilet in Egypt. For a variety of reasons folks took old paper from old books, used it, and tossed it into the toilet. Those old books were actually old Christian and Jewish scriptures.

I suppose being embedded in urea helped preserve the documents. First thing though is that almost all the writing was invisible so they had to 'bring it back" with electronic tricks and no doubt "magic" eh. And they did.

The lesson is TIME IS NO FRIEND OF THE PRINTED WORD.

370 posted on 06/08/2011 3:56:55 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Stick to the evidence ~ he didn't provide pictures of different fonts but of different impressions made with the same key on a typewriter.

When you're done drinking your kool-aid, GO LOOK AGAIN!
371 posted on 06/08/2011 4:00:00 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: wintertime

They definitely see whatever they want to see or not see. The evasiveness over a simple point is worthy of a circus acrobat.


372 posted on 06/08/2011 4:03:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Brown Deer
No, I know it wasn't you about the hospital name. I know what this thread is about. Even if it's a forgery, it doesn't make sense to use different type fonts in the same word unless there was no other birth cert available with those words. It just doesn't make sense to use different fonts on either a typewriter or a computer.

Somebody had a vertical rule on YT I don't know how to activate; all I have is my grid which and line tool; the grid I had to make very small for zoom work. I didn't notice it but am now aware, some of the letters don't line up vertically.

You lost me on the e font. Which e where?

Today's latest video, somebody was going to post that his mother's signature was forged. I guess it's scanned at different resolutions and have been wondering why she stuck in her real first name the way she did. Also I'm not really sure they were married at that point but that doesn't explain a subsequent divorce. I can well understand the stigma of being a possible unwed mother, not saying that's the case. Her signature looks consistent. I can usually spot obvious forgeries but some are too good.

Oh, the Nordyke twin I looked at Susan's, the time of birth, 2:12 P.M., the M drops way down. I can't remember what might cause that with a manual typewriter. I was curious why and when they were released to the public anyway. According to WND, they were published in the Honolulu Advertiser about July 2009, but I don't know why she released them. Also in an article on the Honolulu Advertiser site, it's claimed that the Nordyke twins went to school with Obama at Punahou and graduated with him. The mother was trying to figure out why she didn't know about Obama being born there and why the number for his was higher, says because she was in labor so long. She claims she met Obama's grandmother on a cruise to Tahiti in 2002 when they became seated at the same table. The grandmother said Obama's mother was deceased but that Obama was a social worker in Chicago.

Twin sisters, Obama on parallel paths for years

373 posted on 06/08/2011 4:02:59 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: muawiyah
It could have happened as early as over 30 years ago when these people probably installed a brand new Xerox microfiche system.

LMAO, Really?
374 posted on 06/08/2011 4:03:06 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: TigersEye

. The evasiveness over a simple point is worthy of a circus acrobat.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Like chasing a roach around a kitchen counter.


375 posted on 06/08/2011 4:05:57 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Brown Deer
There are two different typewriters with slightly different fonts ~ and one of them is definitely a manual typewriter which created different impressions (in terms of density, depth, clarity, and position) depending on how hard the keys were struck.

So, yeah, a nurse running around with a baby in one hand, doing hunt and peck with the other.

Mai Tai in hand? Naw. She done run out of hands.

376 posted on 06/08/2011 4:05:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Aliska
You lost me on the e font. Which e where?

The 'e' in 'Male'. Go back here and look at 'e' (#25)
377 posted on 06/08/2011 4:07:51 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: conservativegramma
Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

Finally all those years of watching Mad Men are paying off!

The IBM Selectric was introduced on July 31, 1961 (Mad Men fudged the date on this because the noise of so many manual typewriters in 1960 would have been so loud that the dialogue would have been hard to hear), so it's very unlikely that the Selectric would have been in widespread use a few days later.

The odds are very strong that if the document is real it was typed on a manual typewriter and the irregularities reflect the degree of force with which the typist hit a key, how long they held it, and how much ink was in the ribbon and then on the type that hit the paper. Smudges and distortions were par for the course.

As for "kerning" the question is not whether you can find different-sized spaces between different letters. It's more whether you can find different-sized spaces between the same letters. What I mean is a letter like "l" was put on a particular part of the type (closer to the right, say), so in relation to other letter the "l" would always look to be unevenly spaced. But this would be consistent. It would be a function of how a manual typewriter worked, not some computer age development.

I dunno about all these "experts" -- people who claim expertise with modern technology but don't know about fountain pens or manual typewriters and other earlier technologies.

378 posted on 06/08/2011 4:07:59 PM PDT by x
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To: Brown Deer

Don’t tell me you worked some place where “they” didn’t do that?


379 posted on 06/08/2011 4:08:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Nurses in 1960 did not use typewriters. I am willing to bet my entire 401 K that any notes or notations in bound logs by any clinical nurses are in **cursive** penmanship. ( Likely Palmer method!)


380 posted on 06/08/2011 4:08:34 PM PDT by wintertime
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