I wasn't rude to you, I think, was I? I understand that it can be frustrating when the opponent seems not to understand what you think is obvious. Don't you think I also have reasons to claim that some people on this thread are on crack?
What do you see on this thread except mass hysteria --- and hysteria in response to merely asking people to back up what they themselves claim. If anyone looks to be on crack it is those that scream at the top of their lungs, without a bit of information but plenty of name-calling.
Unlike most others, you have the integrity to admit that you cannot provide any evidence but believe that there is a ton of it:
I don’t have a staff to clip and file every piece of information so I can regurgitate it at your command .. The fact is that you could fill several warehouses with data backing up everything
Of course you don't have time to clip everything. Nobody is asking you or expect that you clip every piece. Just find one piece of evidence that Goldman Sacks ever asked for the TARP money. I can't. Check for evidence also that Goldman:
(i) Was begging the government to take back that money.
(ii) When finally allowed to return that money, whether it was even trying to bargain with the government or paid the government's asking price that yielded the taxpayer over 20% annualized return.
(iii) Reminded the congressional committee that it had never wanted the money, with Blankfein saying, to wit: "We raised money in the private markets just days before the bailout; we would've raised more if we needed more" (to help you: this testimony was on C-Span).
Seems like GS never wanted the money in the first place, tried to return it at the first opportunity, and was willing to get rid of it under any conditions, paying whopping 20-25% interest --- the asking price of the government --- without any bargaining.
So, please do find one piece of evidence that GS asked for the TARP money. You don't have to tell me the results of your search. You don't have to do that today or tomorrow. But please do try to find something at some point. See what happens.
Have a good day.
"Seems like GS never wanted the money in the first place, tried to return it at the first opportunity, and was willing to get rid of it under any conditions,.."
Seems like, well, where is your evidence? Where is your proof? A newspaper account? Why should I believe them?
"...please do find one piece of evidence that GS asked for the TARP money."
Please find one piece of evidence that ANYONE ASKED for TARP!!!
The claim was that everybody had to take it, so that the BAD banks wouldn't be found out.
Your asking for proof when GS balance sheet is not public knowledge is a futile attempt to obfuscate.
Ouch! I have no intention to bombard you with two posts no 166 and 167. They essentially say the same thing. Since 166 did not appear in the comments part for a long time, I replied with 167. And now there are two. Sorry.
So, please do find one piece of evidence that GS asked for the TARP money.
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GS is getting bailed out RIGHT NOW by the FED and their ultra-low rates ,, they got bailed out bigtime when they pressured the gov’t to bail out AIG at 100% ... they are in effect being bailed out continually by the SEC allowing them to illegally frontrun everyone that uses their infrastructure to place trades. Stop being so smug... Lord Blankfein should be in jail right now ,, America would be better off for it.
Unlike most others, you have the integrity to admit that you cannot provide any evidence but believe that there is a ton of it:
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I said no such thing ,, you simply are not worthy of the effort, providing the “evidence” you request is akin to asking me to supply evidence that water is wet.