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To: GGMac
We know that Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro.

I would appreciate a source/link for this assertion.


257 posted on 01/27/2011 11:00:39 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith

I think it is in the Soetoro Divorce records. I think it might be an inferred deduction. Barry had to be an Indonesian Citizen to go to school. He would have needed a pasport or Birth Certificate to prove that to be the case. Sometimes in solving X + Y = 100 You know x= 43, so Y HAS to = 57.

Once this is understood... it gets a lot harder to debunk it.

The ONLY thing covering Obama now is his refusal, which of course also points to his guilt.

You are right to ask for documentary information. The better its documented, the harder it is going to be to avoid public pressure to resign.


258 posted on 01/27/2011 11:12:13 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais is beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Beckwith

In the divorce decree, it’s inferred. It said “the parties” meaning Ann and Lolo had a child who was no longer a minor and then Maya is listed also as theirs. Obama would have been referred to as a step-child. Not to mention, BHO was known as Barry Soetoro in Indonesia.


266 posted on 01/27/2011 11:44:13 AM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (*********************End automatic pay raises for congresscritters**)
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To: Beckwith; All

Sorry this reply to your request has been so long in coming. I spent yesterday afternoon digging through piles of articles for a link, went to post it and our internet connection was down. Very frustrating. Mediacom sucks.

The link is : http://htmlimg3.scribdasseta.com/6s9m08i522igghs/images/1-3eb25e724b/00...

It’s a page from one batch of FOIA documents recently released. Specifically, it’s a page from the Hawaiian divorce of Stanley Ann/Lolo Soetoro. It was filed August 20, 1980, so Maya had just turned 10 and Barry had just turned 19.

From “Complaint For Divorce”:

2. The parties are lawfully married to each other.

3. The parties have 1 child[ren] below the age of 18 and 1 child[ren] above 18 but still dependent on the parties for education.

If Barry had not been adopted by Lolo Soetoro, he would not be considered by the court to be his child, nor would Lolo be included in being responsible for his education. Unless the biological [named on birth certificate] father has legally signed away his rights as parent, HE remains the father, legally - even though he may have been/be a totally absent parent.

This divorce document giving parent-designation to Lolo gives that much more weight and credibility to the Indonesian school record book stating that Barry was Barry Soetoro, and an Indonesian citizen.

I’m not a lawyer, so all should understand that my piecing together of puzzle parts is based on what seems to me to be logic, and on what is generally understood to be legal/not legal - either by personal experience or by research. I don’t live in Hawaii, so my knowledge of Hawaiian law and how it may change or evolve to suit Barry is just as limited as the next person who comments. I see our purpose to be working together in presenting information and ideas, with the goal being to find the truth regarding Barack Obama.

It’s a difficult task because, as I mentioned elsewhere, one question answered inevitibly unearths more questions.

If the link doesn’t work, just typing “Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro Lolo Soetoro divorce papers” [include the “” marks] will provide a list of sources. That’s how I found it, last year [before the FOIA release].

A tidbit - purely hearsay, though with realistic heft, considering the attribution: During the ‘08 campaign, Michelle Obama was, it is said, overheard blurting out: “I’ll be damned if an adoption is going to prevent my husband from being president!” Falls into the ‘take it or leave it’ category, but sure fits topic/personality.


486 posted on 01/28/2011 9:07:18 AM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture.))
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