I just found this in my notes regarding the statute that allows for the registration of a child born outside of Hawaii. I don’t remember where I copied this information from, but I beleive this was the statute that I read in detail and from which I concluded that a short form birth certificate was insufficient evidence.
“Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. Statute 338 is in substance and 178 are minor revisions.The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had NOT been previously registered in Hawaii.
Since Hawaii issues “Certificates of Live Birth” to children not born in Hawaii and “Birth Certificates” to children who are born in Hawaii, the only way to know where Hussein Obama was actually born is to view Hussein Obama’s original birth certificate from 1961 that shows the name of the hospital and the name and signature of the doctor that delivered him.”
With regard to Maya’s certificate, I do not recall ever seeing the actual certificate online myself, just reading several references that it had been posted online. There was at least one example I did see posted online of an individual who was not born in Hawaii and had a Hawaiian birth certificate, however.
The law that went into effect in 1982 is irrelevant since Obama was born in 1961 before this law was in effect. His birth could have been registered by the grandparents with the Health department in 1961 and we don’t know what proof if any they would have shown to the health officials.
Your conclusion is incorrect.
Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the child’s birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence.
Yes, that's the statute passed in 1982 that I was talking about. It was not on the books in 1961 when Obama's birth was registered, and hence, as you say below, not relevant.
The Certificate of Hawaiian Birth program was established in 1911, during the territorial era, to register a person born in Hawaii who was one year old or older and whose birth had NOT been previously registered in Hawaii.
Also not applicable to Obama, since he was only four days old when his birth was registered.
With regard to Maya’s certificate, I do not recall ever seeing the actual certificate online myself
That's because she doesn't have one. The rumor that she does was just made up by someone.
There was at least one example I did see posted online of an individual who was not born in Hawaii and had a Hawaiian birth certificate, however.
Are you talking about Sun Yat Sen? Used fraud to illegally obtain one of those Certificates of Hawaiian Birth mentioned above, something which we know Obama does not have, his birth having been registered when he was four days old.
The law that went into effect in 1982 is irrelevant since Obama was born in 1961 before this law was in effect.
Correct. That would be Hawaii Revised Statute 338-178. Proir to that law, there was no provision under which foreing-born children could have their births registered in Hawaii.
His birth could have been registered by the grandparents with the Health department in 1961 and we don’t know what proof if any they would have shown to the health officials.
So you are alleging that his grandparents comitted fraud. Do you have any evidence? Do you even have a plausible motive?