In most states the short form BC is an abreviated version of the long form BC, but in Hawaii it may or may not be an abreviated version of a long form birth certificate. Those born in foreign countries could obtain a short form Hawaiian Birth certificate. Hawaii is different in this regard to other states. The Hawaiian statutes have been posted in this forum and others numerous times and may even be available currently on their own website. While a birth was announced in the Hawaiian newspaper, any grandparent or relative could have called the newspaper and requested this announcement just like countless other grandparents did when their grandchildren were born out of state, so others in their town would know they had become grandparents. This was quite popular to do in the 1950’s and 1960’s and most newspapers would do it for free. Also there are at least two different short form birth certificates that have been posted, one on Obama’s website and the other on the daily KOS, and both have been found by forensic experts to be forged documents. There is just too much conflicting information out there for me to be able to know for certain just where he was born.
That said, I grew up in the 1960’s and I was taught about the “natural born citizen clause” at three different schools I attended. I was taught that in order two be a “natural born citizen” you had to be born in the United States and have two parents that were citizens at the time of your birth. Since Obama claims his father was born in Kenya and was a British subject, Obama would not be a “natural born citizen”. Furthermore under the law in existence when Obama was born his mother could not have conferred U.S. citizenship on her son if he was born outside of the United states as Obaman’s Kenyan grandmother has attested.
When there's a long form on file, it's always just an abbreviated version of the long form.
Those born in foreign countries could obtain a short form Hawaiian Birth certificate.
Not in 1961. The law you are referring to wasn't passed until 1982.
While a birth was announced in the Hawaiian newspaper, any grandparent or relative could have called the newspaper and requested this announcement just like countless other grandparents did when their grandchildren were born out of state, so others in their town would know they had become grandparents.
Incorrect. The Hawaii papers affirmed that they only published birth announcements based on information they received directly from the Health Department (called Health Bureau in those days).
This was quite popular to do in the 1950’s and 1960’s and most newspapers would do it for free.
Not the Hawaii papers that announced Bambi's birth.
Also there are at least two different short form birth certificates that have been posted, one on Obama’s website and the other on the daily KOS,
Nope. It was the same document.
and both have been found by forensic experts to be forged documents.M
Wrong again.
That said, I grew up in the 1960’s and I was taught about the “natural born citizen clause” at three different schools I attended. I was taught that in order two be a “natural born citizen” you had to be born in the United States and have two parents that were citizens at the time of your birth.
You either have a bad memory or you are lying. From the time of the Kim Wong Ark decision until Nov. of 2008, no one used that definition in the United States.
How sad is it that this was a clearly known fact and NO ONE IN THE MEDIA, not even Sean or Rush, openly wondered if having a Kenyan father disqualified him from being a NBC?
I might be a bit younger than you, but I remember having been taught the same thing.