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That's right. Barry was born, by birthright, a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. Inherited from his foreign father, regardless of where he was born. At best, he was born with conflicting allegiances. There is no chance the framers would have considered someone born with multiple allegiances a "Natural Born Citizen"

Well, actually, every single one of our Founding Fathers was born "a subject to the crown of His/Her Majesty the King/Queen of England". :-)

Benjamin Franklin: Born a subject of Her Majesty Queen Anne

John Hancock and most of the other Founding Fathers: Born a subject of His Majesty George II

Martin Van Buren, the eighth President of the United States, was the first U.S. President that was NOT born as "a subject to the crown of His/Her Majesty the King/Queen of England".

" That's right. Barry was born, by birthright, a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. Inherited from his foreign father, regardless of where he was born. At best, he was born with conflicting allegiances. There is no chance the framers would have considered someone born with multiple allegiances a "Natural Born Citizen"

Well, actually, every single one of our Founding Fathers was born "a subject to the crown of His/Her Majesty the King/Queen of England". :-)

Benjamin Franklin: Born a subject of Her Majesty Queen Anne

John Hancock and most of the other Founding Fathers: Born a subject of His Majesty George II

Martin Van Buren, the eighth President of the United States, was the first U.S. President that was NOT born as "a subject to the crown of His/Her Majesty the King/Queen of England".

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Of course they were, which is why they grandfathered themselves in. Right? Not a one of them considered themselves a "Natural Born Citizen". They knew they weren't. They were, however "citizens of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution."

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

Your not suggesting Barry fits the grandfathered clause like the founders...are you? Otherwise, why would you mention that in the context of Barry and 2008-2010?