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To: wideminded

Still waiting for an answer as to why SAD Soetoro was able to following instructions as to filling out her passport renewal, i.e. she understood the declaration above her signature and she was to strike words from the declaration only, but she wrote and struck her son’s name on the application when was not instructed to do so.

It’s a similar argument with the Indonesian school record ... the place of birth is indisputable and undeniable, but the declaration of Indonesian Nationality on the same page is a mistake and cannot be taken literally.

Why is that?


407 posted on 09/26/2010 6:37:39 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Soebarkah renounced his US Citizenship in 1968.)
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To: SvenMagnussen

Still waiting for an answer as to why SAD Soetoro was able to following instructions as to filling out her passport renewal, i.e. she understood the declaration above her signature and she was to strike words from the declaration only, but she wrote and struck her son’s name on the application when was not instructed to do so.

It’s a similar argument with the Indonesian school record ... the place of birth is indisputable and undeniable, but the declaration of Indonesian Nationality on the same page is a mistake and cannot be taken literally.

Why is that?


Your point is moot.

THE IMMIGRATION & NATIONALITY ACT of 1952

Section 349(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (8 U.S.C. 1481(a)(5)) is the section of law that governs the ability of a United States citizen to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship. That section of law provides for the loss of nationality by voluntarily performing the following act with the intent to relinquish his or her U.S. nationality:
“(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state , in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State”.

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.


418 posted on 09/26/2010 7:17:17 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: SvenMagnussen
Still waiting for an answer as to why SAD Soetoro was able to following instructions as to filling out her passport renewal, i.e. she understood the declaration above her signature and she was to strike words from the declaration only, but she wrote and struck her son’s name on the application when was not instructed to do so.

I answered this for someone else last night. See #224.

I gave six possible explanations. I think they are all much more plausible than the one you have put forward.

It’s a similar argument with the Indonesian school record ... the place of birth is indisputable and undeniable, but the declaration of Indonesian Nationality on the same page is a mistake and cannot be taken literally.

Why is that?

I think there are two possible explanations for that:

1. He really had become an Indonesian citizen. (In other words I agree with you that this is possible. I just don't think that the passport records offer any proof of this.)

2. Obama's parents were trying to scam the school, or at least trying to get him into an Indonesian public school without obeying the letter of the law.

422 posted on 09/26/2010 7:53:40 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: SvenMagnussen
I guess there is one other possibility:

3. The school decided to just assume he was an Indonesian citizen because his stepfather was.

424 posted on 09/26/2010 8:02:14 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: SvenMagnussen

>Indonesian Nationality on the same page is a mistake and cannot be taken literally.

>Why is that?

Because some truths are truthier than others.

There.


480 posted on 09/27/2010 11:51:46 AM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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