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To: swarthyguy
Here’s one. Born in the US to an American woman from a foreign father. Then ADOPTED by an Indonesian man and resides in Indonesia. At this point he is now an Indonesian citizen. When he comes back to America he is in effect a NATURALISED American, hence unqualified to hold the office.

A parent cannot strip a child born in the U.S. of his U.S. citizenship. That birthright belongs to the child and not to the parent.

If Aristotle Onassis had adopted John and Caroline Kennedy, they would still have been U.S. citizens .... regardless of what Jackie and Aristotle did or did not do.

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children. Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5) of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation, is not subject to duress or undue influence, and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his/her U.S. citizenship.

Obama is hiding his original birth certificate because it probably lists his birth name as "Barry Dunham". Since Obama, Sr. was already married in Kenya and bigamy is illegal in the U.S., the birth certificate may have even listed Stanley Ann Dunham as "Single".

If Rush and Hannity are not barking up the "not a U.S. citizen" tree, they are pretty sure that it is the wrong tree.

37 posted on 09/24/2010 12:32:37 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Polybius; swarthyguy
That's right.

Barry was born, by birthright, a subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. Inherited from his foreign father, regardless of where he was born.

At best, he was born with conflicting allegiances. There is no chance the framers would have considered someone born with multiple allegiances a "Natural Born Citizen" as required for the position of Commander in Chief.

He's a usurper. Rush, Hanity, Levin, et. al. are afraid of the issue for whatever reason...

$$$$$$$$

47 posted on 09/24/2010 1:13:20 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Polybius

A valid statement that ‘gaining’ Indonesian citizenship - which it appears is exactly the case - does not nullify US citizenship.

The real issue would be the actions of an ADULT Obama after he turned to the age of majority (18). At that point he would need to declare or at least utilize the privileges of only one country from that point forward.

It would appear that there is a least plausible actions or lack of actions and disclosures that give credence to an ADULT Obama who leveraged multiple citizenships depending on the need. Or maybe he lived as a full foreign national during his college years. The records that would confirm or debunk this line of reasoning are.....still hidden.

His birth - may be a problem, his likely adaptions - may be a problem. But if lived and embraced either foreign or dual citizenship as an adult after age 18...that IS a problem that almost no one can deflect or rationalize.


72 posted on 09/24/2010 2:20:15 PM PDT by bluecat6
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To: Polybius

Are you implying that Rush et.al. have more valid info than all the persons who have been uncovering documented history?


96 posted on 09/24/2010 4:07:36 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Polybius

“Obama is hiding his original birth certificate because it probably lists his birth name as “Barry Dunham”. Since Obama, Sr. was already married in Kenya and bigamy is illegal in the U.S., the birth certificate may have even listed Stanley Ann Dunham as “Single”.”

His mother filled for divorce from Obama Sr. The divorce papers are public record. She was married to him.


153 posted on 09/24/2010 7:55:20 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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