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To: patlin; SvenMagnussen; conservativegramma; jamese777; curiosity; Bubba Ho-Tep
So Birthers have been reduced to intentionally misreading clear legal language. I suppose this means there's no better evidence they've found to rely on.

In any case, here's what's wrong with the new Birther read on this. First, the text from the renewal application page in question:

I have not (and no other person included or to be included in the passport or documentation has), since acquiring United States citizenship, been naturalized as a citizen of a foreign state; taken an oath or made an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state; entered or served in the armed forces of a foreign states; accepted or performed the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or political subdivision thereof; voted in a political election in a foreign state...

(If any of the above-mentioned acts or conditions have been performed by or apply to the applicant, or to any person included in the passport or documentation, the portion which applies should be struck out, and a supplementary explanatory statement under oath (or affirmation) by the person to whom the portion is applicable should be attached and made a part of this application.)

And below these two paragraphs is a line where the Applicant signs to affirm the above statement as true.

Now, as should be obvious, if "any of the above-mentioned acts or conditions have been performed by or apply to the applicant" or any person included, then the applicant can't sign it as being true. So, in order to provide clarification to the passport office and to create an oath that the applicant CAN sign, the instructions are for the applicant to strike out the portion of "the above-mentioned acts or conditions" that does apply, redacting those portions of the oath, so that the applicant can then sign an edited and accurate oath.

For illustration, let's say that John Q. Citizen has an American passport, and does a lengthy study abroad program in Europe. While overseas, one of the odd jobs he takes is working for the decennial British Census. His passport comes up for expiration, so he files a renewal application (like the one the above language comes from). But he's now had employment under a foreign state. So what does he do with the application?

He doesn't go about striking out his name all over the application because he performed one of the acts listed. That's...well that's just silly. (What kind of stupid instruction would it be to fill out an application and then obscure the information just filled out?) And he can't sign the oath as-is, because it wouldn't be the truth. No, what he does is this:

I have not (and no other person included or to be included in the passport or documentation has), since acquiring United States citizenship, been naturalized as a citizen of a foreign state; taken an oath or made an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state; entered or served in the armed forces of a foreign states; accepted or performed the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or political subdivision thereof; voted in a political election in a foreign state...

...and then he attaches "a supplementary explanatory statement under oath" that explains he worked for the British Census. Now that's he's struck out the portion that does apply to him, he can honestly sign the oath.

Ann Dunham, by contrast, obviously didn't strike out any portion of the oath she signed in her renewal application. Because none of it applied to her or to anyone included in the passport.

It's really not that complicated.

177 posted on 09/25/2010 5:43:54 AM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC
It's really not that complicated.

It appears that, for some people, it is too complicated.

181 posted on 09/25/2010 8:04:56 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: LorenC

ROFL, talk about desperate, yeah, Obama had a job at age 7 & they changed his name, that’s why it’s crossed out. Yeah, you keep thinking that to protect your weak closed mind.


214 posted on 09/25/2010 3:11:46 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: LorenC
So, according to your theory, SAD Soetoro carefully read and understood the declaration before she signed it, but decided to go off and get crazy with it by writing a persons name and striking it out. Why would she do that? Clearly, she understood the only word or words to be striked out are the words pre-printed on the application. Yet, she got crazy and wrote Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah) even though she wasn't instructed to. This the same Obot meme with the Indonesian school record. The Indonesian school record clearly indicates Barry Obama was born in Honolulu, HI and its indisputable. The fact the same school record indicates Barry Obama is an Indonesian National is a mistake and can't be taken literally. Any reasonable person knows SAD Soetoro wanted to inform the US State Department she planned to stay in Indonesia indefinitely and her son, Barack Hussein Obama (Soebarkah), was to be struck from her passport because he renounced his US Citizenship.
220 posted on 09/25/2010 4:23:27 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Soebarkah renounced his US Citizenship in 1968.)
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