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To: Colonel Kangaroo

“Buchanan was not the worst president, but he probably is in the top 20. I think that distinctive title should go to Wilson. But Obama, before his term is over, is going to wrest the title away, I think.

For long term damage I think Wilson is worst but Buchanan is close. Had he reacted like Andrew Jackson did in the Nullification Crisis I do not think we would have ever reached a Civil War.”

I don’t agree at all. Buchanan was not a stellar President but he was not close to the worst. He has frequently been pilloried by leftists who say that, if only he had taken some unspecified action, the Civil War could have been averted.

You mention Jackson and the Nullification Crisis. Different time. Jackson was responding to a tariff and although he blustered and threatened force, a tariff (tax) is quintessentially easy to compromise. It was reduced, with an assist from Henry Clay, and SC rescinded its nullification ordinance. The Crisis was resolved, for the time being.

Buchanan, a lame duck President, was responding to a new nullification crisis, which involved a matter not capable of compromise—the Election of a new President, Abraham Lincoln. Also, the times were different. The United States Army in 1860 numbered only 16,000 troops and it was spread from Maine to California. On the other hand, the Southern militia had grown much better organized, spurred by the talk of secession, Bleeding Kansas, and John Brown at Harper’s Ferry. These militia units became the foundation of the Confederate Armies of Tennessee and Northern Virginia, which were very formidable forces.

So Buchanan confronted a much different crisis and a much different South. Moreover, had he engaged in sabre rattling in 1859-60 like Jackson, he risked a huge portion of his regular army, especially the officer corps which was top heavy with Southerners, who would have (and in fact later did) resigned rather than obey an order to invade the south.

Buchanan may not have been a great President, but he faced many crises including Dred Scott, Bleeding Kansas, Harper’s Ferry and the 1860 election. In my estimation, he was better than Grant, Wilson, Clinton, Carter, Obama, LBJ or FDR, to name a few. It is true that he was unable to avert the Civil War, but neither could Lincoln. Buchanan was a Constitutionalist, who believed the essence of governance was restraint. This is probably why liberals revile him.

I refuse to take the liberal bait on Buchanan, becasue it is highly simplistic to say any politician could have averted the Civil War. You have to look at the entire historical context. The seed of secession was planted at the Constitutional Convention in 1787, when the Convention deferred the issue of slavery in order to form a Union. It had been germinating for 80 years. The fact that it sprouted on James Buchanan’s watch is not even mostly his fault.


39 posted on 08/21/2010 9:21:11 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Brices Crossroads

“I refuse to take the liberal bait on Buchanan, becasue it is highly simplistic to say any politician could have averted the Civil War.”

Jefferson Davis might have desisted from attacking Fort Sumter. His own Secretary of State, Robert Toombs of Georgia, told him in plain English it would start the greatest civil war the world had ever seen, but Davis apparently thought he knew better.

It is disastrous decisions such as the Fort Sumter attack that lead me to think that one of the defects in our system of government is the unitary executive, and the Swiss plural executive may be superior. A unitary executive is certainly best if you know it will be George Washington or Ronald Reagan, but more often you get Jefferson Davis, Jimmy Carter, or Barack Obama.


40 posted on 08/21/2010 9:41:26 AM PDT by devere
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To: Brices Crossroads
Buchanan may not have been a great President, but he faced many crises including Dred Scott, Bleeding Kansas, Harper’s Ferry and the 1860 election.

And punted all of them.

83 posted on 08/21/2010 5:20:55 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Brices Crossroads
It's not just liberals, or even primarily liberals, who think Buchanan was a lousy president. If a president can't keep the country together, can't get the laws enforced, can't keep his own cabinet secretaries from subverting the union, and can't make any major decisions, he's not a good president.

I'd say there's a difference between restraint on the one hand and indecisiveness and drift on the other, as well as a difference between firmness and saber-rattling. If Buchanan had laid out early just what his notion of the constitutional framework was, just what states and state conventions could and couldn't do in response to Lincoln's election. He could have saved the country its worst agony.

What Buchanan did -- nothing -- was worse than making even a bad, but definitive decision. If he'd said, the federal government wouldn't stand in the way of secession, or wouldn't tolerate secession, or would pursue the matter in Congress, in the courts or in a constitutional convention, it would have been better than just punting and letting the next guy figure out how to respond.

It's too easy to let Buchanan off the hook for his dithering because he was a "constitutionalist" and blame Lincoln for taking action. Lincoln had to deal with the situation Buchanan left him, and his options were limited by Buchanan's earlier inaction. In any case, constitutionalism ought to mean something more than federal or presidential inaction. It has to involve an understanding of what Washington can and must do and the ability to do it.

FWIW, it is possible that Pierce was actually a worse president. At least Buchanan wasn't entirely the author of the troubles that overwhelmed his administration. Pierce, by contrast, let Douglas and Congress open Pandora's box, with the Kansas-Nebraska Act. If he'd simply said no, perhaps the crisis could have been put off for a while longer.

250 posted on 08/23/2010 3:04:39 PM PDT by x
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