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To: Danae

Danae, I can’t answer your questions about Polarik. I’m not here to defend him. He seems to defend himself well enough, and as he sees fit. I don’t know about Berg or Clinton. I’d like to hear his defense against those allegations.

I can hazard a guess that perhaps he began weighing in on this in June 2008 because that’s when the COLB appeared. It’s when a LOT of us started weighing in everywhere because it was like waving a red flag in front of a bull. That image was so obviously bogus and when the media did not agree with the sheer ridiculousness of posting a digital image on a website, supposedly as PROOF of eligibility, many of us felt compelled to do everything in our power to say, “Hey, wait a minute. Could you at least investigate this?”

My beef has always and ever been with the complicit media and now that they’ve been outed via their little JournoList, we can see how this all went down.

THAT massive conspiracy between left-wing media, politicians, “think tanks”, academia, etc., imho, is FAR MORE important than Obama because even if you expose and oust him, the machine will still exist. Can and will just set up another candidate. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

It might be that Polarik presses the issue because he’s writing a book. He can answer for himself. And I’d like to hear him answer. Truly. You are perfectly right to ask questions.

I agree that what Obama conceals is far more important than that image at FactCheck. It’s a forgery and I think for this reason: Hawaiian law states that an amended birth certificate must indicate the fact that it was amended. He doesn’t want anyone to know that it was amended because he doesn’t want to answer the logical questions that would follow. Which would reveal everything he’s been concealing.

I get that you believe that people are falling into a trap. I think that people are intelligent enough to make up their own minds about whether or not they’re being used. While it may be frustrating for you to watch, people have the right to make their own mistakes. That’s what freedom and self-determination is all about.

I don’t think it’s fair to blame those who try to discredit the COLB for the very existence of the attacks on “birthers”. They would have demonized ANYBODY who opposed Obama, for any reason. Limbaugh and Beck do their thing. Nobody knows WHY they don’t address this subject. There could be many factors. Maybe they know something we don’t know. Like the true story. Tucker Carlson, for one, suggested once that he does know something. He said it’s not fair to hold Obama accountable for the “mistakes” of his parents. If they know what we don’t, and since they can’t predict how the truth will play out, whether it will work to the advantage of those they support instead of work against them, maybe that’s why they won’t go there.

I do also vaguely remember the gist of your tiff with Polarik. You made a mistake about a document, which you admitted to and apologized for. He said your document was not real. At the time, I disagreed with him. I didn’t think he proved his case. Without wasting a lot of time going back and reading it all again, imho, it’s water under the bridge. I’ve been reading this thread from the get go. I don’t think Polarik is the one who made you “a target” again. Someone else was pushing that issue. I don’t know why.


175 posted on 08/04/2010 11:14:44 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson

Polarik has some things to answer for, and it surrounds his treatment of me. MestaMachine knows and knew the whole story, and she believes that Polarik is not what he seems, and is not being either honest or forthright. I happen to agree. Because I know and suffered through the whole history of it, that this person is not to be trusted. He might be right, but that does not mean he should be trusted. A broken clock is right twice a day, but that doesn’t mean you should trust it every other second of the day.

I pretty much see everything that Polarik posts as questionable. Mostly because of his treatment of me, and his actions/lack of action in the past. I don’t think anyone at FR should trust him. Take what he says with a shaker of salt, because he WILL throw anyone under the bus to make himself “right”. I happen to be the proof it it. Thats why MestaMachine brought it up. I think she is right to have done so.

Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend. I question the man’s motivations. He is too willing to make unsubstantiated claims and slaughter the reputation of anyone who gets in his way in achieving his goals. I didn’t deserve the treatment I got from him. I legitimately started with the intent to offer information and to HELP.

When I found I was wrong I admitted it.

Did Polarik ever admit he was wrong to say my COLB was a Fraud?

No he NEVER did.


180 posted on 08/04/2010 11:36:07 AM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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