Posted on 07/19/2010 5:31:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
"The hope that fired up the election of Barack Obama has flickered out, leaving a national mood of despair and disappointment. Americans are dispirited over how wrong things are and uncertain they can be made right again. Hope may have been a quick breakfast, but it has proved a poor supper." -- Mortimer Zuckerman, Editor-in-Chief, US News & World Report, July 2, 2010
This from a man who on Fox News recently said he voted for Obama, his newspaper, the New York Daily News, endorsed Obama, and that he even helped one of his speeches!
The problem is an ancient one. How to remove from office a king or, in a republic, an elected leader who has broken the law and/or is perceived to be a threat to both the present and future of the nation? In earlier eras, the solution was usually bloody.
"Who will rid me of this meddling priest?" England's King Henry II was reputed to have said of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury. In 1170, his complaint was obliged when Becket was murdered on a cold December evening.
I cite this famous quote only because the tide is rising among Americans who would be rid of Barack Obama. I would never suggest or condone the sword, but surely one would think we the People might have recourse to the courts or Congress.
The fear in both the courts and Congress is the torturous process involved and, of course, the outcome.
Twice in our history, impeachment has been tried and failed, first with Andrew Johnson whose Reconstruction policies following the Civil War were in much disfavor and, in more recent times, with Bill Clinton whose perjuries and other problems were not deemed to rise to a level worthy of removing him from office. Richard Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.
The Constitution stipulates that "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
The drawback of impeachment is the way it would inevitably cast Obama as the victim of predatory politicians. It is not a good choice.
Presumably, lying about one's eligibility to hold the office of President and spending huge sums to ensure that one's birth certificate and actual place of birth shall remain unknown would justify removal.
We all know by now that, constitutionally, only a "natural born" citizen may serve as President. His father was a British citizen and both parents must be American to qualify as natural born. We all know that considerable controversy exists as regards the birthplace and citizenship status of Obama. Was he a Kenyan? Was he an Indonesian citizen at one point?
The enduring question on the minds of many is why the court cases filed to get at the facts regarding his eligibility have encountered so much resistance? Surely this is a matter of major national concern. What nation would permit an imposter to serve in its highest office?
Alas, early cases were dismissed when those bringing them were deemed to have no "standing" before the court though one might think the lowliest citizen should have standing.
As wrenching as the process of removing Obama from office via the judicial process might be deemed, there is no legitimate reason not to proceed.
There appears to be no evidence his birth was registered with the American embassy or consulate in Kenya. I have seen a photo of a document said to be his Kenyan birth certificate. Having no way to authenticate it, I am reluctant to pass judgment.
The birth certificate from Hawaii, offered during the 2008 campaign, is said to be one issued upon request as opposed to the "long form" issued for those actually born there. There was some question raised at the time as to its authenticity with allegations that it was photoshopped. There is a question whether a long form certificate exists.
My personal view is that many in government fear the consequences of removing even an illegitimate President from office, given that it would require that all legislation signed into law and all executive orders issued by him would be rendered invalid. I suspect some fear that chaos more than waiting and hoping the electoral process will end his term in 2012.
My problem is that the nation must endure some 900 more days of the malevolence or sheer incompetence he will initiate; including a lame duck session of Congress following the midterm elections that would impose Cap-and-Trade, card check, and other legislative abominations.
A large majority of the electorate presently wants Obamacare repealed and will likely feel the same about the alleged financial "reforms."
There are constitutional scholars who know far more about such things than me, but I confess to remaining baffled by the failure to attend to the critical question regarding the right of Barack Hussein Obama to be the President of the United States.
You still think voting matters??? ACORN,,,the new voting machine!.............all the dead can vote!
We canceled cable and disconnected the TV **years** ago. The only time we see Fox is when we travel. Even then it is rare, since WiFi is widely available and then we watch Hulu.
We need to rid ourselves not only of him but also of the Ruling Class that put him in place and keeps him in place even though they all know that he is a Usurper.
Not to me it doesn’t—ya sees with what you look with...
What does it look like to you?
And you frequent political sites???
Think! If that idiotic birther nonsense wins the political fall out for the democrat party perpetrating the greatest fraud on the American people in political history decimates the party on a grander scale than any tarnish Watergate left the Republicans in for decades....and that is just the beginning! Nothing signed by him is legal...his vice president can not take his place nor can Pelosi since she knew.
You now have a part of the democrat party that just might fall behind the birther nonsense to get rid of the communist part of the party that has taken over and pushed the good ol boys out of running the show...the fun of just watching the show would be worth it.
...the old blended with the new...
Semper Fidelis
Gunny G
aka:
Dick Gaines
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How do we rid ourselves of the 52% of Americans that voted for him? The unbelievably stupid people will be voting again. That is the real problem.
Yeah, the Constitution is pointless and meaningless, you are so right.
So what if he’s ineligible or not even a citizen?
The Constituion was written by dead white men who were slaveholders so it means nothing now.
The biggest scam in history was the coup when LBJ killed JFK. The lies told then are the foundation that put Obama in the White House (if you can pull of that scam then Obama was easy by comparison).
Americans are brain dead fools.
I haven’t heard the fat broad burst into song yet—hang in there/endure till the end....
“The Court observes that the President defeated seven opponents in a grueling campaign for his party’s nomination that lasted more than eighteen months and cost those opponents well over $300 million. Then the President faced a formidable opponent in the general election who received $84 million to conduct his general election campaign against the President. It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the President was not eligible for the office he sought. Furthermore, Congress is apparently satisfied that the President is qualified to serve. Congress has not instituted impeachment proceedings, and in fact, the House of Representatives in a broad bipartisan manner has rejected the suggestion that the President is not eligible for office. See H.R. Res. 593, 111th Cong. (2009) (commemorating, by vote of 378-0, the 50th anniversary of Hawaii’s statehood and stating, ‘the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961’).“—US District Court Judge for the Central District of Georgia Clay D. Land in dismissing Rhodes v. MacDonald et. al., September 16, 2009
Wanna bet, bucko?
I’m not throwing in the towel just yet.
The posters who claim the Obama eligibility issue as idiotic and a non-issue are the idiots.
Half way of "many years" - huh? And king dictator?
It's going to be a short 'dictatorship'.
Explain the TWO Documents of Certification that Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travis Germond are responsible for....
‘Splain that....why were TWO used unless something FRAUDULENT was being perpetrated on voters??
jamese777 is an idiot democrat poster. It can’t explain it. it obfuscates and BS’es.
I thought I smelled a troll....
His likeness or his lip prints?
That’s gorgeous.
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