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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Oh boy, are you ever cockeyed from propaganda, bringing up habeas corpus and trying to impart the impression that the former Confederacy regarded States in any way differently than the United States did under the Articles of Confederation. Lincoln was notorious for exactly that which you pretend to be a damning fact about Jefferson Davis. Davis had no iron fist with the southern States, and yes I’m capitalizing State on purpose. Governor Zebulon Vance of North Carolina never, and I do mean never, violated habeas corpus, and that alone puts the lie to your contention.

You’d have everyone believe that this just wasn’t possible under some wacky, anachronistic, invented application of fascism nearly a century before the fact. The fact of the matter is, the former Confederacy varied little from the United States of a generation before. The United States as a whole changed, but the southern ones didn’t.

You can argue that it was for the better, and you’ll not get argument from me as far as the peculiar institution of human bondage, particularly chattel slavery. However, that institution, peculiar as it came to seem, had existed throughout recorded history, on every continent and among every people, and continues to be practiced to this day.

There were many things lost in order to gain that one thing, a great price was paid. The repercussion of an overreaching leviathan federal government is one of the more noteworthy after-effects, and you can’t argue otherwise with a straight face.

That war was a lot of things, but it was *not* about slavery, not in the beginning. The end of slavery was the practical end result of the whole ugly affair, despite the worse efforts of all involved. To say anything more about it is to again engage in propaganda, and yes it exists on both sides of the debate that still rages in certain quarters, such as the occasional FR thread. We’ve had some truly epic ones here.

Now, tell me about your ancestral home in East Tennessee.


141 posted on 05/04/2010 9:38:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
I believe that Lincoln used anti-slavery proproganda to gin up support for the the on-going war. As you said, that was not the original reason the war started, but as war fatigue set in, Lincoln needed to find a way to boost morale in the North and tapping in to the Abolitionist movement was the ticket.

My families are from Hebbertsburg (near Crossville) and I have family on my mom's side from Spring City, near Knoxville. FYI ;)

151 posted on 05/04/2010 9:48:51 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: RegulatorCountry

That war was a lot of things, but it was *not* about slavery, not in the beginning.


Not according to confederate vice-president....

“Lincoln had served in Congress in the 1840’s, with Alexander H. Stephens, later Confederate Vice-President. Stephens, like other Confederates, identified slavery as the sole issue of the Civil War.”

“We went to war on account of the thing we quarreled with the North about. I never heard of any other cause of quarrel than slavery. Men fight from sentiment. After the fight is over they invent some fanciful theory on which they imagine that they fought.’’ — Confederate Col. John Mosby, cited by Leonard Pitts, Jr., “The South fought to keep slavery, period” (Miami Herald, 14 April 2010), and: “Confederate ‘President’’ Jefferson Davis once flatly cited ‘the labor of African slaves’ as the cause of the rebellion.”

http://medicolegal.tripod.com/slaveryillegal.htm#slavery-sole-cause-civil-war


167 posted on 05/04/2010 10:25:43 PM PDT by RasterMaster (The only way to open a LIEberal mind is with a brick!)
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