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To: Non-Sequitur
Methinks you don't think at all. You admit you know nothing about Lincoln, but that doesn't stop you from blaming every ill in the world on him.

Again, you are insincere. See my above post. I am specific in what I blame him for in the follow up. And you did not respond except by accusing me of accusing him of "blaming every ill in the world on him." silly.

My objection is to your idea that only one side of the secession question has any validity. That you can walk out and leave damage behind you, and that's just too bad on the other states. True secession, as Madison wrote, requires the consent of both sides of the issue - those leaving and those staying. Anything else is rebellion, pure and simple.

If a tyrant wrecks a country are the tyrannized responsible? By your reasoning, yes. Rather the opposite, all those who get out from under the heavy yoke are being responsible and showing at the same time others the way to squelch tyrrany, namely by giving the tyrant no subjects so that he is forced to inflict his wrath, ambition, and delusions upon himself alone.

Regarding the Founders opinions about secession, there is much diversity even from the mouth of the same person at different times. Indeed, secession is a difficulty. It's telling that it is not unambiguously not allowed. Why? Simply because it is a much more peaceable solution than revolution. But, you, no, you prefer revolution or tyranny. Which, pray tell?

960 posted on 03/21/2010 11:36:45 AM PDT by Cincincinati Spiritus ( "..get used to constant change." Day 1969. "Everything has changed since 911" but a need to change.)
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To: Cincincinati Spiritus
f a tyrant wrecks a country are the tyrannized responsible?

Do you have any concept what the definition of 'tyrant' is?

By your reasoning, yes.

Absolute nonsense.

Indeed, secession is a difficulty.

Not according to you. It's announce it and go. And in your world everyone else is supposed to agree that you are in the right and they are in the wrong regardless of the truth of the situation.

Why? Simply because it is a much more peaceable solution than revolution. But, you, no, you prefer revolution or tyranny. Which, pray tell?

Excuse me? You're the one advocating walking out without comment, for any reason or for no reason at all, repudiating all responsibility for obligations built up by the country as a whole while you were a part, and taking every bit of government property you can get your grubby little hands on and I'm the one advocating a violent solution? Your scheme is guaranteed to foster acrimony and lead to confrontation.

967 posted on 03/21/2010 12:19:13 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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