[AlanD]

I am not a “Lincoln Lover”, far from it.

Lincoln gave the South as much rope as they needed to hang themselves. I can’t condone either side.

[central_va]

Lincoln gave the South as much rope as they needed to hang themselves. I can’t condone either side.

You can pick the side of tyranny or of freedom. We are all slaves of the feds now thanks to the Illinois Butcher™.

[Idabilly]

“Lincoln gave the South as much rope as they needed to hang themselves. I can’t condone either side.”

Lincoln was a blood thirsty tyrant.

States acceded with a stroke of a pen - Left with a stroke of a pen.

At NO time did our Founders condone the use of force against a seceding state.

Madison:
“A Union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. ?The use of force against a State, would look more like a declaration of war, than an infliction of punishment, and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.”