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To: Idabilly

It’s been nearly 150 years. I think it’s time you got over it. History has given its verdict; Jefferson and Lincoln came out OK.


4 posted on 03/10/2010 6:39:18 PM PST by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: CalvaryJohn
It’s been nearly 150 years. I think it’s time you got over it. History has given its verdict; Jefferson and Lincoln came out OK.

Nobody knows for sure, but I suspect if given the choice Thomas Jefferson would choose Abraham Lincoln over Jefferson Davis.

6 posted on 03/10/2010 6:41:50 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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Abraham Lincoln played the Southern fire-eaters like a fiddle. His secret was to use jiu-jitsu politics.

These techniques were developed around the principle of using an enemy’s energy against him,


7 posted on 03/10/2010 6:42:17 PM PST by AlanD
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To: CalvaryJohn; Colonel Kangaroo

“It’s been nearly 150 years. I think it’s time you got over it. History has given its verdict; Jefferson and Lincoln came out OK.”

A great man once said:

“The contest is not over, the strife is not ended. It has only entered upon a new and enlarged arena.”


8 posted on 03/10/2010 6:46:47 PM PST by Idabilly
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To: CalvaryJohn
History has given its verdict

Oh, history gives out "verdicts" now ..... how perfectly Marxian. Which dialectic are we on now?

History gave a "verdict" to the Athenian, Roman, Venetian, and Florentine republics ...... but our Framers founded yet another, having refused history's "verdict" that tyranny, Caesarism, and divine right of kings are the natural order of things.

32 posted on 03/10/2010 9:51:32 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: CalvaryJohn

Good take. Neither was perfect. Both loved the country. But in a crisis, I’d take Lincoln any day.


156 posted on 03/11/2010 6:52:04 PM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: CalvaryJohn

I don’t understand the stupid “get over it” response. We are all taught that we must learn history or we are destined to repeat it. Regardless of where you stand on the War Between the States, saying “get over it” is moronic. Southerners and supporters don’t have these discussions to “still fight the war.” We have them because they are fundamental to where we are, how we got here, and where we are going. If you don’t get that, you are in the wrong place and hopelessly over your head.


388 posted on 03/15/2010 5:31:05 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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