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To: Non-Sequitur
Repel invasion from whom?

I'm going to link to previous posts here to save bandwidth for our kind host and to save us from going through the same arguments yet again. Those who are interested can go to the links.

To answer your question above: Invasion from the guy who was trying to instigate a shooting war. Guess who that was. For an answer about who that was and his several attempts at instigating war see one of my posts in one of the two recent Cleburne threads: [Link to post 54]

"The aggressor in war is not the first who uses force, but the first who renders force necessary," isn't that what you posted before? In the face of the rebel buildup then wouldn't the actions Lincoln took to preserve federal facilities and property be justified?

The Confederate buildup was to protect themselves from invasion, etc., as they said. Besides, the North was building up their own forces as well. See our old running battle about that in [Posts 401-425].

Post 416 in that string of posts listed the total number of Southern troops that I was able to find that had been called up prior to Sumter. The total was far under the 100,000 authorized. There is also information in those posts about Federal buildup and actions before the Sumter attack and Federal forces that quickly moved to Washington.

IMO, the first aggressor in all of this was Anderson. See my post 58 on that Cleburne thread [Link to post 68]. Anderson made a move that might have made sense militarily but was horrible from a political standpoint.

PS, Luckenbach was fun as always.

282 posted on 03/13/2010 7:47:45 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket

Typo. “58” should have been “68”


284 posted on 03/13/2010 9:54:40 PM PST by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket
To answer your question above: Invasion from the guy who was trying to instigate a shooting war.

Ah yes, back to the old "The aggressor in war is not the first who uses force, but the first who renders force necessary" quote. So since it's deja vu all over again, what was the act of aggression Lincoln committed that rendered force necessary?

. Besides, the North was building up their own forces as well. See our old running battle about that in [Posts 401-425].

Those quotes are from April, a month after the rebel government issued their call for 100,000 troops. It could more properly be said that the call for troops in the U.S. were a response to the threat issued by the confederate government. The size of their army and the fact that they cut off what few supplies were allowed to Sumter made their hostile intentions clear.

Post 416 in that string of posts listed the total number of Southern troops that I was able to find that had been called up prior to Sumter. The total was far under the 100,000 authorized.

But still easily twice the size of the U.S. army at the time. And more were coming.

IMO, the first aggressor in all of this was Anderson. See my post 58 on that Cleburne thread [Link to post 68]. Anderson made a move that might have made sense militarily but was horrible from a political standpoint.

An opinion built of very shaky ground. Anderson's decision to move, while perhaps not politically expedient, was in keeping with the orders given him by Buell and were required for the safety of his command. Therefore his actions were perfectly legal and a 'aggressive act' only for those looking for any excuse to start a war.

299 posted on 03/14/2010 8:10:24 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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