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To: parsifal
“But, as far as I am concerned, an HONEST Birther could no longer claim that Dr. West could not have delivered the baby because he was retired. But, I will bet you we see the claim made a whole bunch more times before this is over.”

I calculated Dr. West's age myself back when his retirement at age 46 was first claimed and found it to be highly unlikely. However, there does not appear to be a claim that he delivered Obama himself, and the story seems to have been scrubbed from the web. Plus the woman has a potentially highly prejudicial personal relationship to Obama.

Based on my non-lawyer understanding of hearsay, there is no way that any hearsay exception would be granted to the person who told the Dr. West story, especially since this is “double hearsay” (he told me that he had heard/read about Stanley giving birth to BHO II). I am now highly interested in Dr. West's bound record of the vital statistics of each infant he delivered at K. hospital as a target of discovery!

900 posted on 02/25/2010 12:58:43 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
Plus the woman has a potentially highly prejudicial personal relationship to Obama.

I was doing a little research on West a day ago and came across that her husband gave donation(s) to the abortion group Planned Parenthood. As it goes to their mindsets.

Obama "I don't want them punished with a baby!"

903 posted on 02/25/2010 1:10:29 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Seizethecarp

I thought the same thing about the bound ledger. Also Nerks put up a picture last night of Dr. West sitting at his desk wearing a doctor coat and the blurb says, Dr. West shortly before he retired. As I pointed out, he looks a lot older than 46.

But yes, the whole issue is just collateral fluffery. It has no relevance to any issue. The COLB is pretty good evidence of birth. But the Birthers, and I am not knocking them here, just splat out the same old stuff over and over and there is little rhyme or reason to most of the material.

Its like somebody misprinted a name on the cover of the 1961 Honolulu Phone Book, it would turn into a conspiracy where Hawaii was hiding the real phone book and real phone numbers. So, whenever I can slap down any of these phony pieces of “evidence” I try to do so. I keep waiting for somebody to spot the big inconsistency in the Nordyke Birth Certificate, but thankfully no one has yet or we would have 200 more pages of Birtherisms to go through.

Now as to the hearsay. If a hearing took place in administrative setting, rules of evidence often don’t apply. In hearsay, there are exceptions. The doctors dead and he can’t testify. He was excited when he said it.

Now there would be no reason to call this lady to the stand for anything. Nothing she could testify to that can’t be proven in much better ways. Courts usually stop grossly duplicative evidence from coming in. There’s a word for it and it eludes me at present. Comes from the Latin for “flogging dead horses”.

parsy, who is having a senior moment, and I ain’t even a senior yet, I don’t think....How old am I?....


904 posted on 02/25/2010 1:17:23 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Seizethecarp

Cumulative evidence! That’s the word. From Latin “Cumulo Flaggellus Equinus” Floggin a dead horse!

parsy, who had to look it up


911 posted on 02/25/2010 1:29:47 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Seizethecarp

Dr. West left a bound record of the vital statistics of each infant he delivered at K. hospital?

That’s interesting.


912 posted on 02/25/2010 1:30:19 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Seizethecarp
I am now highly interested in Dr. West's bound record of the vital statistics of each infant he delivered at K. hospital as a target of discovery!

But don't forget the cunning way Barbara Nelson told her story...she did not say that Dr West had said he DELIVERED the child. She says he said 'Stanley Ann had a baby...'

930 posted on 02/25/2010 1:57:51 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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