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To: El Gato
According to Vattel

I know all that, but Vattel died in 1767, while the 13 colonies were still part of the British Empire. Although the "Law of Nations" was used as a template for the U. S Constitution, it is not, and never was U. S. law, and, after all, that's what we're addressing here, isn't it.

Now for some U. S. law:


800 posted on 02/25/2010 1:55:13 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith
Now for some U. S. law:

Which, as I've said the many Obots on here, can not change the meaning of a Constitutional term of art. It means what it mean in 1787 to those who wrote and ratified the Constitution. If, as seens likely, they were using the Vattel definition, then there is and always has been, an exemptin to the jus soli requirement. Or properly, an "understanding" that those born in the service of the country, are considered to have been born in the country, and thus satisfy the jus soli

Your link also may contain information obtained from a FAKE birth certificate posted on the internet, just like Obummer's was. Probably by Oh's own minions, since their is contemporary documentation that he was born a the Coco Solo base hospital, which might have been pretty small and inadequate, and was thus replaced a few years later, such replacement serving as "proof" that there no hospital there at the time McCain was born.

But, be that as it may, it's moot. McCain is no longer running, although we may have his cannidacy to thank for O-Boy's "presidency".

1,049 posted on 02/25/2010 4:49:35 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Beckwith
I know all that, but Vattel died in 1767, while the 13 colonies were still part of the British Empire. Although the "Law of Nations" was used as a template for the U. S Constitution, it is not, and never was U. S. law, and, after all, that's what we're addressing here, isn't it.

No, we are addressing the meaning of a term used in the US Constitution. That meaning is now, for Constitutional purposes, what it was in 1787. Only an amendment could change it, and the 14th amendment, the only one dealing with citizenship, did not do that. It just applied it to "all persons".

1,072 posted on 02/25/2010 6:07:01 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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