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To: DJ MacWoW
I guess that Punkster doesn’t get that you only impeach an eligible President. If he was never eligible, he was never a President.

Who gets impeached is who holds the office of President. And at this point in time, it is Obama. He received the requisite number of electoral votes, those votes were certified, and he was duly sworn into the office of President. And he holds that office until such time as he may be removed by way of impeachment and subsequent conviction by Congress.


3,194 posted on 03/07/2010 1:29:48 PM PST by KenyanBCPunkster
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

If you aren’t eligible for the office, you aren’t the holder of the formal title.
Period.


3,196 posted on 03/07/2010 1:31:51 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

If he holds office illegally, he is not eligible for impeachment.


3,198 posted on 03/07/2010 1:33:24 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

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3,199 posted on 03/07/2010 1:34:02 PM PST by Darksheare (Tar is cheap, and feathers are plentiful.)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
And he holds that office until such time as he may be removed by way of impeachment and subsequent conviction by Congress.

Not necessarily. If he is an illegitimate office holder, with no rights to hold said office in the first place, he could be removed without impeachment and Senate trial.

3,201 posted on 03/07/2010 1:34:13 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: KenyanBCPunkster

And he holds that office until such time as he may be removed by way of impeachment and subsequent conviction by Congress.


And that may happen sooner than you think!


3,210 posted on 03/07/2010 1:39:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: KenyanBCPunkster
Who gets impeached is who holds the office of President.

That's not what the Constitution says, it says

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Art. II, Section 4.

It also says:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

So how can someone not eligible to the office "hold" it? By that argument, someone could walk in off the street and "hold" the office. I mean if you're willing to disregard one requirement, why not a couple more of them? Maybe only one requirement. The guy could sign a copy of the oath, be over 35, 14 years a resident, and be a natural born citizen.

Ridiculous of course, but it does follow from your position.

3,256 posted on 03/07/2010 3:45:25 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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