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To: Danae
Historically, most often the “date accepted” and the “date filed” is the same date as the majority of births occur on O’ahu (the island with the largest population in our state).

I would agree and so would the 1961 birth census. Of the 35,232 births that year, 29,628 were in in the county of Honolulu and of them 16,536 were in the city of Honolulu proper. Of the over 35,000 reported for the state, 184 did not take place in any medical facility and are reported as having no attending physician or midwife. Of those 184 for the county of Honolulu, 28 of those unattended & not born in any medical facility were recorded for the city of Honolulu proper.

In the past, when births were recorded on paper they may have been accepted at a health office on an island other than O’ahu, such as Kaua’i.

The paper record would then need to be sent to O’ahu to have a file number placed on it, and the filed date would then be sometime later (as you know, the state of Hawai’i is comprised of multiple islands with miles of water in between).

Okubo replied that the numbers are issued at the state level, not the county level therefore since ‘0’s was accepted/filed on the 8th & the Nordyke’s were not accepted/filed until the 11th, Okubo is basically saying that ‘0’s would have been given a number by the state 3 days earlier. If we were to follow BuckT’s theory, the date on ‘0’s would be the 11th, the same as the Nordyke’s certs.

The electronic age has changed this process significantly, and it was determined some time ago that one date would suffice.

‘0’ was not born in the new electronic age, but he was born the same week as the Nordyke and since the state office is in the same city, it would be reasonable to conclude that in 1961 there was a liaison for the state in that city that went out to the local hospitals(2)daily if needed, got the forms and then went back to the office and processed them. It would make sense for all certs for the city of Honolulu to have the same date in both boxes, whereas facilities in outlaying areas were visited less frequently. Thus the delay in the accepting/filing of the certs.

Regardless, what Okubo has stated is that the numbers are issued when the document reaches the state level not the local/county level and the docs are stamped complete when that file number is recorded.

I'd say this is a case closed per the response by Okubo. The COLB number on ‘0’s form was issued and the doc was completed on Aug 8, 1961 and therefore it should be showing a lower number than the Nordyke twins certs as according to Okubo that is the only date that now appears on the colbs.

314 posted on 02/23/2010 5:39:21 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: patlin

If the Nordyke twins’ doctor was a staff member there he would be on record but there would be other doctors,too,in OB-gyn wouldn’t there? They could have staff members or dr’s w/priviledges and there would be some sort of record,right? in payroll, etc.... so where is Obama’s dr.? i’ve never heard of him and no one has come forward & claimed to be such. Obama is in deep fraud


341 posted on 02/23/2010 8:12:35 PM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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